Here’s Youtuber Mark Schutzius taking down a running hog with his single shot, .45-70 rifle. Looks like he was sporting a "Trapdoor Springfield". Posted on 12/14/2017 5:22:41 AM PST by w1n1
Here’s Youtuber Mark Schutzius taking down a running hog with his single shot, .45-70 rifle. Looks like he was sporting a "Trapdoor Springfield".
This heavy slug was developed at the U.S. Army’s Springfield Armory for use in the Springfield Model 1873, which is known to collectors as the “trapdoor Springfield”.
According to gun historians the caliber accuracy was approximately at 4 inches (100 mm) at 100 yards. Because this was a heavy bullet its trajectory was an arc.
Obviously, this didn’t stop this Youtuber Mark Schutzius to put his single-shot .45-70 to put down this hog. Take a look at this hog hunting footage at full speed here.
My father had one He used to shoot it at Midnight to welcome the New Year.IT was stolen by some unidentified pukes that left our front door open when they left. one Mothers Day. Weren’t terrible smart so they must have been under the influence—not much sense in what they grabbed and what they left. Local Police said it must have been someone from out of town cause all the locals thought our house was haunted.Good to see some of them are still in use.
I've always wanted a bigger thumper like a .45-70, just to have one. There are increasing numbers of grizzly sightings near where we camp during the summer, so I can add that as an excuse, although admittedly a flimsy one. From what I have read, the .45-70 in a lever action is an excellent close-quarters protection gun, even on the biggest of bears.
Yes.
There are arcs and there are arcs
The trajectory of the 45-70 is more like a rainbow.
There are a number of components besides velocity and gravity in the real world: wind direction and speed, temperature, humidity, altitude, compass direction are a few. For a 100 yard shot at an elk those factors can be disregarded but for a 1,000 yard shot could be the difference between an exploding whistle pig and an embarrassing cloud of dust.
Gravity is a constant and is pulling the bullet down as it is in flight at that constant rate. If you drop a bullet from shoulder height (5 feet), it will take 0.56 of a second to hit the ground. If you fire a .45-70 at 1350 ft/sec assuming a perfectly level rifle, it will go forward about 250 yards in that time. All the while, gravity is pulling the bullet down so that it will arrive at the ground in 0.56 seconds. In other words, the bullet will drop 60 inches over 250 yards, which lines up almost exactly with the trajectory chart of a .45-70 shooting a 530 grain bullet at 1350 ft/sec. There is some rounding error in my math.
If a rifle propels the bullet at a very fast 4,000 ft/sec, it will travel almost 750 yards in that 0.56 seconds resulting in a much flatter trajectory.
4" drop over 100 yards is the same as a .22 LR.
“The rifle he used looks like an H&R.”
The rifle in the picture is a “break open” type which the Springfield is not. The Springfield is called a trap door because of the hinged breach that is lifted to insert the cartridge. By the way I have a real Springfield carbine made in 1878.
You might also want to see if you can get an older (pre-remington) Marlin 45-70 lever action. Friend of mine has one and it’s a very sweet rifle.
Unreadable. And the rifle in the picture is not a trapdoor.
Well, I do own a Springfield Officer’s Model trapdoor rifle made by H&R in 1971, but I did point out that the hog hunter’s rifle appears to be a break action single shot; googled & came up with the H&R Handi Rifle which is based on the Topper shotgun, but comes in several rifle calibers.
BTW, I also own an original trapdoor Springfield 1866 converted from a muzzleloading 1863 model. Indians discovered the difference to their dismay at the Wagon Box Fight in 1867.
;^)
Have my granddad’s 45-70 Springfield trapdoor..Still functional BUT don’t use modern loads.
The old drop a penny at same time you fire a weapon horizontally.Bullet and penny will hit ground at same tine.
A 35 Whelen for the first 100 yards is basically the same as a 375 H & H Magnum. More then enough for any, every and all, Big game animal(s) in North America & a lot of African Big game animal(s,) for which it was designed.
Why I mention the other rounds, is because I'm a very cheap person. ALL THREE USE THE SAME BRASS, just neck it up, or down.
When I would go to the gun / rifle range and shoot my 35 Whelen, just after the first round, every one would look my way and ASK, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!!!!! Never mind the muzzle flash in broad daylight, that couldn't be missed.
When I was shooting the 35 Whelen it was a wildcat(er) cartridge, i.e., only self hand / home loading. I believe one of the big name manufactures offers it now in a factory round & build. For those wondering about spec's. plenty of loading data available.
Most people think that the .35 Whelen cartridge, which is a .30/06 case necked up to .35 caliber, was designed by Colonel Townsend Whelen. As a matter of fact, it was only named for Colonel Whelen, but was designed by James Howe, who was then with the famous firm of Griffin and Howe.
The cartridge was designed in the early 1920's at a time when the only way to get a .375 Magnum was to have one built up on the long expensive Magnum Mauser action. The great advantage of the .35 Whelen was that this was a cartridge that could handle heavy bullets and yet could be used on short actions like 98 Mauser and the Springfield
Source: pg. 305, Speer Manual for Reloading Ammunition Number 8.
“In fact all bullets drop at the same speed....”
Nothing falls at the same speed.
Any object dropped near the earth’s surface accelerates - picks up downward velocity - at the rate of 32.17 ft per second, for each second of travel. It does lose velocity to air resistance (minor at low speeds).
At the start of the fall, vertical velocity is zero.
After one second of fall, it is 32.17 ft/sec.
After two seconds, vertical velocity is 64.34 ft/sec, etc.
A bullet fired straight up will lose vertical velocity at the same rate, 32.17 ft/sec each second. Therefore, ignoring air resistance, a bullet traveling straight up at 321.7 ft/sec will slow to zero after ten seconds, then reverse course and start to fall downward, picking up velocity at the same rate.
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