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Restaurant's discount for churchgoers stirs discontent among non-worshippers
WSFA-TV ^ | July 20, 2018

Posted on 07/20/2018 11:53:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

CHEVIOT, OH (WLWT/CNN) – A restaurant owner in Ohio is facing legal questions after offering a discount to churchgoers.

"This was the furthest thing from my mind when we came up with this idea," said Justin Watson, the owner of Starters Cafe in Cheviot, OH.

Watson opened the restaurant about seven weeks ago.

He said all he was trying to do was stir up some business with his discount offer to churches. Instead, he stirred up a hornet's nest.

"Any congregation, any religion, any area, whatever, as long as you brought me a church bulletin, I would give you 10 percent off your meal for the day," Watson said. "It seemed pretty simple, and here we are."

Watson said he got angry comments from some saying he was discriminating against non-religious people.

Someone also passed along a form letter from the nonprofit Freedom from Religion Foundation, telling people to alert the owner to the illegality of the practice.

Jim Helton with American Atheists said legality is not always clear-cut in such cases, but he said Watson's actions appear illegal.

"In this case, it was illegal because it was only offering to churches," said Helton, adding that the discount is different from a senior citizen discount or a military discount because religion or lack of religion are considered protected classes.

But there's not a consensus on the issue.

Attorney Jason Phillabaum said he doesn't see anything wrong with giving a discount to churchgoers.

"The law prohibits discrimination. And in this particular case, he's not denying service. He's offering a discount if someone does something specific like bring in a church bulletin," Phillabaum said.

To be on the safe side, and to make his offer to even more people, Watson has changed his discount policy.

"In response, we just removed the 10 percent offer and sent a letter of apology and tried to clear the board. So now we're just offering, on Sunday, noon to four, 10 percent for everybody," Watson said.

It's a deal he thinks will be more universally palatable.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: church; discounts; ffrf; food; waronchrist; waronsmallbiz
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To: P.O.E.

I’ve seen them passed out to churches — even places I’d never go.


21 posted on 07/21/2018 1:53:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just say you also put one in the atheist bulletins :)


22 posted on 07/21/2018 1:56:36 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Too bad he backed down......


23 posted on 07/21/2018 2:10:52 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: HiTech RedNeck

But he should be free from governmental consequences, i.e., lawsuits. The Amendments are about what government can’t interfere with. One’s fellow citizens have the right to peacefully protest and to not spend their money where they don’t agree with the owner’s policies. Those are the only consequences that a owner should have to factor into how he runs his business.


24 posted on 07/21/2018 2:11:40 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It used to be fairly common. I remember there was a burger chain (Burger King ?) that made this a regular offering in the ‘70’s but am always surprised when anyone is stupid enough to try it today.


25 posted on 07/21/2018 2:59:33 AM PDT by erlayman (yw)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I read where at least one of the bakeries gladly served them as customers for regular stuff. As you say - it was the inscription (and purpose) of the cake.

That whole “civil rights” thing sure had a lot of unintended (?) consequences. Obviously I can see that government has to be blind to color, religion, etc.

But if some business in the south wants to keep half (or more) of the customers in their area out of the store, that should be their worry.


26 posted on 07/21/2018 3:28:35 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Cowboy Bob
Almost every restaurant and diner in my area give senior citizen discounts. It's only a matter of time until Millenials protest.
27 posted on 07/21/2018 3:42:45 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Cowboy Bob
Does this mean that student discounts are illegal?

Same for veterans discounts. Or how about the the medical cost sharing organizations that require religious affiliation?

28 posted on 07/21/2018 3:47:03 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Russ

we get military discounts at Lowes and Homo Depot. what about that??? Draft dodgers unite!!


29 posted on 07/21/2018 3:49:20 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We used to go to a restaurant in SoCal that gave a discount with a church bulletin for that Sunday’s service. It seemed like a nice idea; we took advantage of it often.


30 posted on 07/21/2018 3:53:48 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Companies give discounts to all sorts of people including the military without a word. Why is this any different?


31 posted on 07/21/2018 3:53:49 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Paleo Conservative

“Well they can go to Hell!”.

I expect that’s what will happen.


32 posted on 07/21/2018 3:56:08 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freedom from Religion Foundation, doing Satan’s work since 1978.


33 posted on 07/21/2018 4:42:35 AM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is the senior discount still ok? Student discount? Ladies day discount? Military discount? Etc., etc.?


34 posted on 07/21/2018 4:48:42 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tough. Get used to it.


35 posted on 07/21/2018 5:09:09 AM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's liberal hysterical obsession: Putin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a free country.

If someone offered 10% off to flaming homosexuals, the left would think it’s a great idea.

The left is all and only about control.

They CANNOT stand the thought that someone might do something they don’t approve of.


36 posted on 07/21/2018 5:18:07 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Does this mean that student discounts are illegal?

Or senior citizens discounts?

37 posted on 07/21/2018 5:18:55 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The place I get donuts from will throw in some extras if your buying for church. I don’t buy a lot of donuts, but just knowing they do that makes me loyal to them.


38 posted on 07/21/2018 5:36:32 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: Russ

How about “Show us your CCW, get 10% discount”.


39 posted on 07/21/2018 5:44:02 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kids get stuff for “A”s on report cards, what about the dumb kids ???


40 posted on 07/21/2018 5:48:38 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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