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Vladimir Putin's 2016 Election Mischief Continues to Disrupt American Politics
Janitor's view ^ | May 11, 2020 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 05/11/2020 5:09:51 PM PDT by kathsua

There is no evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin is a master at the board game called "chess", but he is a grand master at a real life version of the game.

In 2016. he began an operation to discredit the American system of elections. He took advantage of the basic stupidity of many American politicians and journalists to create the delusion that he had colluded with Donald Trump to affect the presidential election.

Putin was a Lieutenant Colonel in the KGB, the highly effective Soviet Secret Police. If the Russians had been trying to elect Trump, any Russian contact with the Trump campaign would have been done in secret to avoid detection. Putin is intelligent enough to know that some Americans would vote against a candidate favored by Russia.

Putin had Russians meet with Trump campaigners to set Trump up for a collusion charge in the event Trump won. I became suspicious of the real purpose of one meeting because a tv news story sounded like someone might have coordinated the meeting with the Department of Justice. The discovery of the meeting seemed too easy. I'm not a fan of Putin, but I respect his intelligence. He would not have used people so unprofessional that they would be caught while engaged in what should have been a secret operation.

Putting people in apparently compromising situations is an old KGB tactic that the KGB used to blackmail people into cooperating with the KGB such as by providing access to information. The Russian contact with Trump campaigners is a variation on this tactic with the goal simply being to frame people in Trump's campaign.

I doubt that Putin wanted either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump to be President of the United States. In 2016 Putin likely thought the best outcome would be a discredited American election especially if the winner would be forced out of office. . Putin had been criticized for his conduction of presidential elections. Creating a scandal about an American presidential election might prevent unfavorable comparison of Russian elections to American elections particularly if Putin could claim the "American Secret Police" rejected the candidate voters wanted.

Putin is certainly aware of how much the Soviet Union had benefited from the Watergate controversy. The fall of Richard Nixon was followed by the fall of U.S. backed governments in Vietnam and Iran. The Soviet Union was able to take advantage of the weakened American presidency to invade Afghanistan.

Putin obviously wasn't trying to help Trump win. If Putin had wanted to help Trump win Putin would have had actual or forged Clinton incriminating Libya emails.

If Putin has any derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, he will probably keep it secret unless she is elected president.

This farce has gone on long enough. Congress and President Trump need to concentrate on the real problems our nation faces.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016election; blogpimp; donaldtrump; hillaryclinton; vladimirputin

1 posted on 05/11/2020 5:09:51 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua

Lol, what fever swamp did this come out of?


2 posted on 05/11/2020 5:12:31 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: kathsua

So the American left gets caught with its hand in the cookie jar. So blame Putin! What a great idea.

Who is the purveyor of nonsense??


3 posted on 05/11/2020 5:14:24 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: kathsua

What a pant load.


4 posted on 05/11/2020 5:24:23 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: kathsua

“Putin had Russians meet with Trump campaigners to set Trump up for a collusion charge in the event Trump won.”
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WTF? Putin did this? And here I thought it was done by Obama/Hillary/DNC operatives working in conjunction with seditious FBI/CIA elements.


5 posted on 05/11/2020 5:24:34 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS CERTAINLY A PRETEXT.)
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To: House Atreides

At this point, what difference does it make? Tomato/Tomahto


6 posted on 05/11/2020 5:34:40 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: DesertRhino

Russia is our natural ally. The boogiemen of the 50s 60s and 70s all became “good” communists.
(Dead)
Russia should be a rival in the world market, but this “Putin was KGB” nonsense gets old since the KGB has been good and dead since 1991. That’s 39 years for the mathematically impaired.


7 posted on 05/11/2020 5:41:56 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("We are domed!" - V V Camp Enari 67-68)
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To: kathsua
I doubt that Putin wanted either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump to be President of the United States.

Well, let's see. On the one hand you had someone known as a tough negotiator. On the other hand you had someone known to the KGB and Putin to be extremely careless with Secret and Top Secret information because they had intercepted all of those Secret and Top Secret memos foolishly put on unsecure servers.

But it's possible Putin understands Democrats as well or almost as well as Rush Limbaugh and thus knew the left would go absolutely nuts if Mrs. Bill Clinton lost. He probably thought that Mrs. Bill Clinton would still win, but tried to make it look like he helped Trump a little just in case.

8 posted on 05/11/2020 5:49:54 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

And when he was in the KGB, all accounts are that he wasn’t highly respected or any kind of special operator. Je was stationed in Dresden, researching articles in western publications.
In any case the hard “tell” is that the Democrat party of the USA passionately despises him. They are communist, and they see an apostate from their USSR holy land before the wall fell.
Nothing angers them more than Putin rejecting homosexuality, and cutting off NGOs that were promoting both that, and a western banker dominated government. They passionately hate that he went hard after Soros, and that he ended all Russian adoptions to here in the USA because we wouldn’t assure them that no kids would go to homosexuals.
And then the churches. There has been a church building boom in Russia, rebuilding countless churches destroyed by the bolsheviks. Putting orthodox chapels on submarines. Making an air droppable one for the airborne forces.

Most of all, like Trump, he is highly suspicious of global government and thinks the nationalist culture is a better way of life.
If the moslem-loving, homosexual, child-raping, atheist democrat party hates him, I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

This whole story is the Hillary Russiagate scam repackaged.


9 posted on 05/11/2020 6:01:11 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

That’s a very accurate assessment, in my opinion.


10 posted on 05/11/2020 6:04:16 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("We are domed!" - V V Camp Enari 67-68)
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To: kathsua

Nothing infuriates me more than words like “...in the KGB, the highly effective Soviet Secret Police..”. What was so effective about KGB, who was given absolute power, unlimited material and human resources to enslave their own people, all 150 million of them? what were their crown achievements even in the job they were given: to prevent the totalitarian system from being destroyed from within? It fell apart almost without any resistance after several generations of Russian people became sick of it and just ignored the communist garbage. Effective, my ***....


11 posted on 05/11/2020 7:05:02 PM PDT by exinnj
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