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To: Travis McGee

“We Putined Hawaii in 1893,”

No we didn’t. Neither of us were even born in 1893.

“and you are totally happy about it.”

I am totally aware of Jomo Kenyatta’s ranch house speech. “...We cannot afford to look backwards, my friends.” Simple truth, simply stated, the full speech available on You Tube.

Putin is the reactionary, trying to reestablish the old boundaries of the Soviet Union. The former Republics, including Ukraine, have moved on. So, too, I believe, have the majority of the Russian people. Ukrainians foolishly believe that the EU and NATO are some wonderful, progressive organizations, instead of a haven for small-minded bureaucrats and grasping control freaks who can’t make mud out of sand. It’s no threat to Russia, really, though I can understand Putin’s apprehensions. But since VZ has already stated that he’s no longer interested in NATO membership, that should settle that. Once he withdraws his troops, writes condolence letters to all the bereaved parents whose sons died for him in Ukraine, and is tried and punished for his war crimes, Russia and Ukraine can finally sit down and negotiate like adults over the fate of Crimea, etc.

VZ has said that he’s been trying to negotiate with Putin for two years. I believe him. Bears don’t negotiate until they’ve been bested, though. Once they’ve mauled one unicorn, they move on to the next, unless they’re stopped.


136 posted on 03/20/2022 4:39:09 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: Eleutheria5; Lazamataz

So, we did not steal Hawaii from the Hawaiians in 1893 at the point of US Marine Corps gun barrels?

I’m confused.

Now you don’t like conquering countries at gunpoint. Then, you did.

We absolutely Putined Hawaii.

We rolled in with the Marines, pointed guns at the Hawaiins, and said, “We own your country now. Or, we’ll shoot you. Your choice.”

And you seem fine with this, but not when Putin does it.

I guess it was because in grade school, you smiled when you learned about “Manifest Destiny.”

Meaning, “It’s okay when Americas conquers places, because we are very nice people who mean only the best. Not like those mean ugly Russians.”

Don’t you see, that you must choose one way or the other?


137 posted on 03/20/2022 4:46:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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