Posted on 06/16/2022 1:02:17 PM PDT by dennisw
I work with several “wokesters”, who have all been vaccinated and boosted as many times as was available. One of them has had covid 5 times now. Fortunately for me, I have the natural antibodies and t cells from a case of covid that I survived.
“their T-cell response is biased toward earlier versions of Sars-Cov-2 - not to the Omicron variant that has actually infected them. “
Flu shots. You are protected against last year’s strain. Great if you do time travel.
“Flu shots. You are protected against last year’s strain. Great if you do time travel.”
Last year’s strain—in the Southern Hemisphere—so you need both time travel and physical travel.
;-)
I wonder if this kind of thing is a factor in the surge in other viruses (flu etc.) noted in another thread? Instead of a swift and robust immune response that knocks off these other viruses, people are subject to them getting "ahead of" their immune systems because the immune system only has one big hammer in it's toolbox now - going after those original covid variants. A delayed or less effective response (due to the early covid variant bias) might be giving these other viruses a foothold, resulting in out of character infection rates for this time of year.
I am so screwed.
Don't ask, don't tell.
How sciencey!
Doesn’t mention J and J. Wonder how that fits in.
In other words, the mRNA shots appear to permanently wrongfoot the immune systems of people who receive and bias them toward producing T-cells to attack variants that no longer exist - even though they never were infected with those variants at all.
—I wonder if this kind of thing is a factor in ...
No, it’s nonsense. Don’t get me wrong, the vaccines don’t work.
But that quote is nonsense and gibberish.
No!!! They told me it was safe and effective. You’re saying they lied???
I scanned the article looking for the name of the study so I could go to the source and see what it really said.
Huh, they didn’t provide it.
The comments at the end of the article are very enlightening/entertaining!
The Science article is here:
I scanned the article looking for the name of the study so I could go to the source and see what it really said.
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The link was in the article, but I had to dig for it..
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1841?cookieSet=1
You didn’t scan good enough. Its there. Here it is.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1841
Given the accuracy and time frames I've found it more credible than not. For example reports of the variant that caused terrible sore throats start to show up here.
Also many folks record their vax status/# of vaccinations.
A common theme is "I got it and I'm so depressed."
I recommend the forum for anyone going through it. Very useful and interesting anecdotal information.
As my wife and I went through it, I frequently showed her reports from here and we were both able to say "Wow, we did great compared to that..."
Nope. Not vaccinated but I did recommend it to my elderly mother who took medications which would have mitigated any adverse clotting issues.
I thought it was a crime to publish heresy.
What’s up with all these negative vibes?
Ping
Same here. Survived the omnicron, now double and triple faxed are getting sick all around me, mask free.
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