Posted on 05/05/2023 2:14:21 AM PDT by Nextrush
"After successfully defusing the Cuban Missile Crisis, President John F. Kennedy warned against ever again forcing Russia to choose between national humiliation and nuclear war. We should heed his advice"
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Tweet May 4, 2023
"Russia announced today that the Kremlin has been attacked by armed drones, presumably from Ukraine. Imagine how we would respond if Russian-backed forces launched a drone strike on the Capitol. We must stop these deranged attempts to escalate the war"
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Tweet May 4, 2023
What is the game in Ukraine?
With this drone attack aimed at the Kremlin called an assassination attempt against Russian President Vladimir Putin it comes off as "regime change".
More evidence of that notion of bringing down the Russian government in recent weeks the arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court against Putin alleging "war crimes"...
(Excerpt) Read more at nextrushfree.blogspot.com ...
Meanwhile - the NETZERO people have engineered a global shortage of natural gas every place but North America. Everyone has shut down fossil fuel fertilizer production.
Last year was the last good year for food production. Countries like China and Brazil require 5 times more fertilizer per calorie than the USA. Chronic hunger worldwide went from 300 million last year to 400 million. This year it will skyrocket to a billion! Within 3 years we will see 2 billion starving and hundreds of millions dying.
When the story of hunger finally starts getting reported - you must tell people why. Tell them that NETZERO created the largest Starvation Event in human history.
These statements are fallacious from the get go, containing as they do false (unproven) assumptions, but also ignoring other facts.
1. Putin's Russia declared war on a "Special Military Operation" against Ukraine. In that moment, the gloves were off, and Putin could no longer reasonably expect any "special treatment."
2. Putin's Russia has been rocket-bombing Ukrainian cities, with little regard for (or success in) avoiding civilian targets like schools, nursing homes, apartment buildings, etc.
3. In doing so, Putin has launched the bloodiest war in Europe since WWII.
4. Ukraine has previously done nothing of the scale that would warrant any such atrocities. Suppressing disgruntled separatists - backed by Moscow - operating on sovereign Ukrainian territory does not warrant sending tank columns against the Ukrainian capital city!
5. Putin has murdered innocent Ukrainians, and as such has made himself a legitimate target for Ukrainian forces. But...
6. There is no proof that Ukraine did, indeed, attack the Kremlin with drones. There are any of a number of other, quite plausible explanations for whatever happened there.
I, for one, suspect that it might have been a "false-flag" operation, possibly launched by Putin himself, while he sat safe and sound somewhere else - to justify some further atrocity he plans to commit. (But maybe it was an attempted coup by someone in Putin's inner circle.) Maybe it was that animal, Blundetto - jeez, I can't even say his name! The simple fact is: We may never know.
I am also sick and tired of these constant invalid comparisons of "What would we do if the Russians installed a puppet regime in Mexico and...?"
There is no comparing the U.S. - which I love - with the loathsome spawn of Putin's Russia. Many things which the U.S. might do in any given situation would be morally allowable, or at least realpolitisch defensible, even though they might be morally reprehensible if that crackpot dictator Putin did something analogous.
There: I said it!
Regards,
“I am also sick and tired of these constant invalid comparisons…”
Invalid in your or my mind but we’ve always dealt with the Russians based upon what was in THEIR minds. Ok, dismiss the Russians as loathsome and invalid and humiliate them but we’ve still got to deal with any consequences.
I am getting sick and tired of the sick and tired.
I fail to understand our National strategic interest in Ukraine. Is it to protect Ukraine? If so ... why? ... do we have to protect every nation? Is it regime change in Russia? Is that our responsibility?
I do highly fault President Biden for the situation in Ukraine.
First, Biden’s pathetic response to a news reporters questions prior to the invasion: “It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do...”
Many believe that Biden’s statement telegraphed apathy towards Russian Ukrainian aggression ... and may have influenced Putin’s decision to invade.
Secondly, Biden’s seemingly flip-flop from apathy to his vow to support Ukraine “...as long as it takes” against Russia, seems to give US support to Ukraine for never-ending, escalating war with Russia.
Sadly I believe that Biden’s statesmanship flops very well may have leaded to the initial Russian invasion of Ukraine, and trapped an American financed Ukraine into a prolonged war that cannot be won.
My opinion is that President Joe Biden should go down as perhaps one of the worse US statesman in history!
The Biden regime prodded Putin into invading Ukraine this whole damn thing is NOTHING MORE than a money laundering scheme lining ALL of our politicians pockets!! Ukraine is the most corrupt country on the planet lots of elites getting wealthy on OUR tax payer dollars and the hell with the people of Ukraine the end justifies the means our government is PURE EVIL!!
Just after the WW2 Tehran Conference, Stalin said to a journalist, (roughly translated):.
"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe."
Never forget that modern-day Muskovite culture is in part derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran the region in the 13th century. They never really left..
Are we to wait until the Muskovite horde is at the Rhine? Occupying Istanbul? Or Oslo? Are you so poorly read that you don't know how and why the Cold War began? Why NATO had to be formed in the first place?.
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it..
Those who DO study history are doomed to stand by watching helplessly while everyone else repeats it. *sigh*
Yes, we should always take into account their perception of matters. HOWEVER, many people here are doing much more than that: They are actually adopting their perceptions, attitudes, and mindsets and propagating them here and/or expecting us to accept them as valid arguments and/or actual FACTS.
Ok, dismiss the Russians as loathsome and invalid and humiliate them but we’ve still got to deal with any consequences.
We must ALWAYS "deal with consequences!" After all, we are CONSERVATIVES, and as such will always be prepared to deal with the consequences of our actions (or inactions).
Thank you for weighing in!
Regards,
What’s the game?
WWIII in order to erase our $31T debt.
I’m sick and tired of constantly being told that people are fed up with being sick and tired.
I’m certainly not.
And I’m sick and tired of being told that I am.
Yep
Don’t forget 205 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities
Social Security and Medicare
"After successfully defusing the Cuban Missile Crisis, President John F. Kennedy warned against ever again forcing Russia to choose between national humiliation and nuclear war. We should heed his advice." ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. TWEET MAY 4, 2023-LINK
"Russia announced today that the Kremlin has been attacked by armed drones, presumably from Ukraine. Imagine how we would respond if Russian-backed forces launched a drone strike on the Capitol. We must stop these deranged attempts to escalate the war." ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. TWEET MAY 4, 2023-LINK
What is the game in Ukraine?
With this drone attack aimed at the Kremlin called an assassination attempt against Russian President Vladimir Putin it comes off as "regime change".
More evidence of that notion of bringing down the Russian government in recent was the arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court against Putin alleging "war crimes".
It seems that's what we are up against a continuous relentless push to take out Russia so that China can be threatened from its western side even as the tensions build up off its east coast over Taiwan.
Do we really think Russia is just going to roll over and accept all this or will Russia offer up its own escalation?
Kevin McCarthy is on the side of more money and weapons for Ukraine and we're all supposed to love him even President Trump says so.
And in the midst of this I get daily pitches from Republicans including Kevin McCarthy asking me to send money.
I say no money for Republicans except those who give a rip about this march towards war like Matt Gaetz Paul Gosar or Marjorie Taylor Greene.
And money for RFK Jr. too at the very least it will help to disrupt the Democrats bring some "Operation Chaos" but I am liking what I hear him say about this mad relentless march toward nuclear warfare...
And it doesn’t help that idiots like Lindsey Graham keep suggesting someone should assassinate Putin.
wwiii will erase the usa
Let's first get this out of the way: I detest Biden and will in no way argue to defend anything he has ever said or done since he was in diapers (which - wait a minute - might be since 2008).
So nothing I say in defense of Ukraine and/or against Russia has anything to do with Biden or his administration. Okay?
I fail to understand our National strategic interest in Ukraine. Is it to protect Ukraine? If so ... why? ... do we have to protect every nation? Is it regime change in Russia? Is that our responsibility?
To answer your questions:
1. "Is it to protect Ukraine?" No.
2. "Is it regime change in Russia?" No.
Our motivation is to ensure that Putin's Russia is not rewarded for this unconscionable and outrageous behavior (the launching of the bloodiest war in Europe since WWII), lest he continue repeating it (and possibly also encouraging imitators like China vis-à-vis the Spratley Islands and/or Taiwan). It is therefore in our interest to ensure that Putin loses. Preferably in as humiliating a fashion as possible. (Would also be nice if he were then deposed, like Mussolini - not likely, but I can dream, can't I?)
Why?
What Putin has done is morally reprehensible etc. - but no, the U.S. (though effectively the "world's policeman") would not be interested particularly in intervening if some postage-stamp-sized dictatorship in, say, Central Asia were to launch an unprovoked attack against some neighboring country. In such an event, we would carefully weighs the pros and cons and perhaps abstain from interfering.
In the case of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, a weighing of the pros and cons reveals that the U.S. cannot afford to brook such behavior on the part of a major regional power in Europe. We cannot afford to appease, merely fret over, or ignore such behavior.
Putin has, in the meantime, made no secret of the fact that he intends to, essentially, dismember an entire E. European nation, absorbing large segments of it, though perhaps allowing a remnant to survive as a "Protectorate" or the like. It is also not at all in the realm of the impossible that he would then proceed to bully, threaten, and launch attacks at and seize portions of further European countries.
His nuclear sable-rattling is just the "icing on the cake," allowing us to fully disregard him as a reputable negotiating partner or international statesman.
Regards,
Oh, no!!!
Let's give the Russians whatever they want!!!
/mordant sarcasm
Regards,
I still have a problem with RFK Jrs call to jail all climate deniers. Will never trust anyone with that agenda. We farm and see what’s happening in California and especially around the world. Neighbor is dairy farmer from Netherlands
Exactly.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.