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Prosecutors ready to ask for Trump indictment on obstruction and Espionage Act charges The Independent has learned that prosecutors are prepared to ask grand jurors to vote on charges as early as Thursday
Independent UK ^ | Wednesday 07 June 2023 22:34 | Andrew Feinberg

Posted on 06/08/2023 5:38:08 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Department of Justice is preparing to ask a Washington, DC grand jury to indict former president Donald Trump for violating the Espionage Act and for obstruction of justice as soon as Thursday, adding further weight to the legal baggage facing Mr Trump as he campaigns for his party’s nomination in next year’s presidential election.

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defence”.

The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021.

That section of US criminal law is written in a way that could encompass Mr Trump’s conduct even if he was authorised to possess the information as president because it states that anyone who “lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document ...relating to the national defence,” and “willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it” can be punished by as many as 10 years in prison.

It is understood that prosecutors intend to ask grand jurors to vote on the indictment on Thursday, but that vote could be delayed as much as a week until the next meeting of the grand jury to allow for a complete presentation of evidence, or to allow investigators to gather more evidence for presentation if necessary.

A separate grand jury that is meeting in Florida has also been hearing evidence in the documents investigation. That grand jury was empaneled in part to overcome legal issues posed by the fact that some of the crimes allegedly committed by Mr Trump took place in that jurisdiction, not in Washington. Under federal law, prosecutors must bring charges against federal defendants in the jurisdiction where the crimes took place.

Even if grand jurors vote to return an indictment against the ex-president this week, it is likely that those charges would remain sealed until both the Washington and Florida grand juries complete their work.

Another source familiar with the matter has said Mr Trump’s team was recently informed that he is a “target” of the Justice Department probe, which began in early 2022 after National Archives and Records Administration officials discovered more than 100 documents bearing classification markings in a set of 15 boxes of Trump administration records retrieved from Mar-a-Lago, the century-old mansion turned private beach club where Mr Trump maintains his primary residence and post-presidential office.

Over the course of the last year, grand jurors have heard testimony from numerous associates of the ex-president, including nearly every employee of Mar-a-Lago, former administration officials who worked in Mr Trump’s post-presidential office and for his political operation, and former high-ranking administration officials such as his final White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

Mr Meadows has already given evidence before the grand jury and is said to be cooperating with the investigations into his former boss. It is understood that the former North Carolina congressman testified as part of a deal for which he has already received limited immunity in exchange for his testimony.

A source who was briefed on the agreement claimed that the alleged agreement will involve the ex-chief of staff entering pleas of guilty to unspecified federal crimes but an attorney for Mr Meadows, George Terwilliger, denied that to The Independent. Mr Terwilliger said that the idea that his client would enter any guilty pleas was “complete bulls***” but did not address the matter of immunity in a brief telephone conversation with this reporter.

It is not yet known whether the testimony or the charges in question relate to the documents probe, or a separate investigation into the January 6 attack on the Capitol. Both investigations are being overseen by a Department of Justice special prosecutor, Jack Smith. According to ABC News, Mr Meadows has given evidence in both the documents matter and the January 6 investigation.

In the documents matter, prosecutors are also prepared to ask grand jurors to indict Mr Trump on charges that he obstructed justice during the year-long investigation and caused false statements to be made to investigators by persons working for him.

It is possible that such charges could stem from a declaration submitted to federal investigators roughly a year ago, when FBI agents and prosecutors visited his home to retrieve a sealed folder filled with 38 classified documents which Mr Trump’s attorneys turned over in response to a grand jury subpoena. If so, those charges could come in federal court in Florida, rather than in Washington.

According to court documents, the government subsequently developed evidence indicating that documents had been removed from a storage room where his attorneys had stated that all such documents were being stored in the days following the receipt of the grand jury subpoena.

Using that evidence, which reportedly includes surveillance footage taken by cameras placed in the interior of Mar-a-Lago, prosecutors obtained a search warrant for the property that was carried out by FBI agents on 8 August last year.

During that search, special agents discovered 103 documents bearing classification markings, including 18 marked “top secret,” 54 marked “secret,” and 31 marked as “confidential,” including a number of documents that were stored in Mr Trump’s personal office.

This article has been updated to include comment from Mr Meadows' attorney, George Terwilliger.


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1 posted on 06/08/2023 5:38:08 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

This evil is right upon US ... We the People are government, NOT demonic thugs.


2 posted on 06/08/2023 5:39:29 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Red Badger

Are we calling our representatives? We can boycott Disney, Bud Light, and others but we haven’t enough sway to call out the government? This is an abomination.


3 posted on 06/08/2023 5:47:26 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Red Badger

Yet Mrs. Bill Clinton got away with keeping thousands of Secret and Top Secret documents on an unsecure server for the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians, etc. to easily take. She’ll be indicted the day after never.


4 posted on 06/08/2023 5:47:32 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Red Badger

I was wondering why so many “Republicans” were jumping into a seemingly locked-up primary. I quess the Republican wing of te Uniparty was assured Trump would be taken out.


5 posted on 06/08/2023 5:49:37 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Red Badger

These evil people just keep poking and poking , they want the bear to wake up so they can stomp down.
They just can’t seem to get the right group out in the street to protest.

when ...something something ..... cities burn

when ...something else something else .... continents burn


6 posted on 06/08/2023 5:54:21 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: libertylover

She also gave classified information on hard drives and thumb drives to her attorney who does not have security clearance to have or hold that information so when will she be in front of a jury?


7 posted on 06/08/2023 5:54:31 AM PDT by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: Red Badger

Utter bullshit that could inspire a revolution. The charge is bogus; however, real charges against the traitor and criminal Biden remain hidden.

Madrid 1936.


8 posted on 06/08/2023 5:58:28 AM PDT by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.)
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To: PTBAA

The reason so many are ‘jumping in’ is the GOPe wants to split the party into factions, eliminate Trump supporters by marginalizing them........................


9 posted on 06/08/2023 6:00:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
The reason so many are ‘jumping in’ is the GOPe wants to split the party into factions, eliminate Trump supporters by marginalizing them........................

I agree in part ... I think they are paying homage to the central 'beast' , "the law givers', demonstrating their solidarity ... kinda like bending a knee to Baal.

10 posted on 06/08/2023 6:05:05 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: PTBAA

I believe this is the correct answer.


11 posted on 06/08/2023 6:05:17 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (My aluminum baseball bat keeps telling me it wants to talk to J3rry S3infeld. )
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To: Red Badger
Just calm down. No one’s going to revolt, if cities burn it won’t be cowardly conservatives lightning the torches. What’s left of the Right is laying low, staying out of public view, nodding in silent agreement with the Left.

The battle for this country has already been fought, it’s over, the good guys suffered a major defeat when Pedo Joe was cheated into officer, the Left is just mopping up now, hoping a Right Wing group actually tries to make a major move, then they’ll bring the hammer and the boot down.

As the late Bill Paxton said in “Aliens”, Game over man.
12 posted on 06/08/2023 6:06:27 AM PDT by The Louiswu (PEDO JOE MUST GO!!!)
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To: Red Badger

The first indictment was to soften us up for this one. It’s their MO.

If ‘rona was just to soften us up, I wonder what the next one is going to be like.


13 posted on 06/08/2023 6:09:46 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: libertylover

Heh. I guess ‘ol Hil heard everyone saying “lock her up” and she said, “oh, yeah?”


14 posted on 06/08/2023 6:13:05 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Just mythoughts

US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering — that’s it? Ha! Ha! Ha! “Lawdy,” as James Comey would say, ‘no reasonable prosecutor’ would bring a case...


15 posted on 06/08/2023 6:16:20 AM PDT by batazoid (Plainclothes cop at Capital during Jan 6 riot...)
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To: PTBAA

This doesnt take him out lol. If thats what they think they havent been paying attention.


16 posted on 06/08/2023 6:18:59 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: Red Badger

Espionage: The practice of spying or of using spies to obtain secret information...

Now what organizations have used that against Trump?

These are cheeky bastards.

They will indict him and like all the others, it will be kicked out by appeals courts. But it is all designed to give fodder to Trump’s adversaries during the election cycle.


17 posted on 06/08/2023 6:26:09 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Red Badger

The left has been itching for a civil war for years. Followed by gun seizure, lockdowns, suspension of elections, etc.


18 posted on 06/08/2023 6:26:50 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: Huskrrrr

They are assuming they’ll win.......................


19 posted on 06/08/2023 6:27:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: batazoid

Their objective is to terrorize US, meaning President Trump voters, because some of US were paying attention on election night to the greatest theft in the history of this age.

They are demanding he cry ‘uncle’ and go off to his real estate business and leave them be...

Sadly ‘they’ include every ‘trans’ republican collecting campaign cash, pretending they can replace President Trump.


20 posted on 06/08/2023 6:28:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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