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"Hitler remained to the end a socialist"; the Führer "was totally irreligious and" wanted to hang the Pope in St Peter's Square
No Pasaran ^ | 25 Nov 2023 | Anonymous

Posted on 04/20/2024 5:11:17 PM PDT by Rummyfan

There is much to learn from Paul Johnson's history of the 20th century, not least the appalling truth about the "Republican" camp during the Spanish Civil War; some unpalatable facts about FDR and his "vanity … compounded by an astonishing naivety"; and, most importantly, the many ways in which the autocrats of the left (Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc…) and of the right (Hitler, Mussolini, Pétain, etc…) inspired, complemented, and even conspired with, one another.

Much of what we have learned turns out to be myths. What explains the rise of rightist fascism, and how does it differ from leftist communism? According to Paul Johnson, there isn't much difference at all, and the reason for its rise in Europe was the genuine shock, by the general population as well as by the Left itself, over the disastrous results of Lenin's communist revolution in Russia, as much on an economic level as on a humane level. To counter the ruin and the atrocities of international socialism, the Left in Europe invented and turned to national socialism. (Vielen Dank für den Instalink, Kamarad Gail Heriot…)

Also fascinating is the thread that runs through the book, by which the expansion of the State in general and the appearance of "gangster statesmen" in particular took place in the wake of the disappearance of religion and moral absolutes in public life....

(Excerpt) Read more at no-pasaran.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: 20thcenturyhistory; books; communism; communistrevolution; himmler; jimknows; nationalsocialism; nondonorfr; pauljohnson; socialism; ukraine
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To: Rummyfan

Here is what I often post on GAB to annoy the nazi wannabees. They actually squeal like pigs when they read this!

From RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH...

What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a
thirty-point program for the ”National Reich Church” drawn up during the war
by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan, who among his other offices held that of
”the Fuehrer’s Delegate for the Entire Intellectual and Philosophical Education
and Instruction for the National Socialist Party.” A few of its thirty articles
convey the essentials:

1. The National Reich Church of Germany categorically claims the
exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches
within the borders of the Reich: it declares these to be national
churches of the German Reich.
5. The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevoca-
bly . . . the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into
Germany in the ill-omened year 800.
7. The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or
priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.
13. The National church demands immediate cessation of the pub-
lishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany . . .
14. The National Church declares that to it, and therefore to the
German nation, it has been decided that the Fuehrer’s Mein
Kampf is the greatest of all documents. It . . . not only contains
the greatest but it embodies the purest and truest ethics for the
present and future life of our nation.
18. The National Church will clear away from its altars all cruci-
fixes, Bibles and pictures of saints.
19. On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf (to the
German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book)
and to the left of the altar a sword.
30. On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be re-
moved from all churches, cathedrals and chapels . . . and it
must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the
swastika.


21 posted on 04/20/2024 6:37:49 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: chickenlips

They aren’t even on libraries anymore. Get to alibris.com and buy them all.


22 posted on 04/20/2024 7:07:38 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Petrosius

Communists and Nazis were two rabid dogs fighting over the same bone.

Ironically, you could say Stalin also was a “National Socialist”, as he rejected Lenin and Trotsky’s Internationalism” for “Socialism in One Country”.

He also was, despite being Georgian, a Russian supremacist, favoring ethnic Russians, and forcing other ethnicities to abandon lands where they had lived for centuries in favor of ethnic Russians, and also depending Russian be the first language of all Soviet citizens.


23 posted on 04/20/2024 7:10:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan
To counter the ruin and the atrocities of international socialism, the Left in Europe invented and turned to national socialism.

While it's a popular talking point among conservatives that Fascism and National Socialism were "leftst," the truth is that many on the right supported these movements because they were seen as a bulwark against Bolshevism. Especially during and after the Spanish Civil War, when Stalin supported the Republicans and Hitler and Mussolini supported the Nationalists.

24 posted on 04/20/2024 7:17:24 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: dfwgator

Sadaam Hussein’s BAATH Party was modeled after The Third Reich.


25 posted on 04/20/2024 7:21:25 PM PDT by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Mussolini started out as a socialist.


26 posted on 04/20/2024 7:22:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan

On my “to read” list.


27 posted on 04/20/2024 7:24:57 PM PDT by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Rummyfan
"...wanted to hang the Pope in St Peter's Square....

Ain't it odd that no pope ever bothered to excommunicate Herr Hitler?

28 posted on 04/20/2024 7:26:50 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I see you have moved on from Dugin, and have now discovered Ilyin.


29 posted on 04/20/2024 8:06:58 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Paal Gulli

In early 1931, the German bishops excommunicated the Nazi leadership and banned Catholics from the party.

While he was not named- and had already apostasized, Hitler would have been included in this excommunication.

Bishops were made of stronger stuff then. Their actions were driven by the Faith.


30 posted on 04/20/2024 8:20:19 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: dfwgator

NAZI = National Socialist German Workers’ Party


31 posted on 04/20/2024 9:12:10 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Rummyfan

I can’t remember where now, but in one exchange Joseph Goebbels says, “Remember that in National Socialism, the National is an adjective”.


32 posted on 04/20/2024 10:36:54 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Reverend Wright
I see you have moved on from Dugin, and have now discovered Ilyin.

You should, too. What's gonna turn up next?

33 posted on 04/20/2024 10:56:04 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: dfwgator
[Stalin] also was, despite being Georgian.....

Stalin was not a native Georgian. He was an ethnic Russian brought up in an exclusively Russian community in occupied Georgia. He hated Georgians right from his childhood.

34 posted on 04/20/2024 11:02:42 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Probably Solovyov. (the philosopher, not the TV guy)


35 posted on 04/20/2024 11:22:31 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Rummyfan

ping for later


36 posted on 04/20/2024 11:57:57 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; marcusmaximus

“Stalin was not a native Georgian. He was an ethnic Russian brought up in an exclusively Russian community in occupied Georgia. He hated Georgians right from his childhood.”

Your Ukie pal says otherwise:

marcusmaximus to rxh4n1
Stalin was Georgian.

You two loons can duke it out.


37 posted on 04/21/2024 3:29:18 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: dfwgator

38 posted on 04/21/2024 5:30:00 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.c)
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To: Rummyfan

Coincidentally, so do muslims, unless they just want to nuke the Vatican. Either or, preferably both. Oddly. the muslims had the idea of killing the pope before Herr H came along.


39 posted on 04/21/2024 7:59:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Dzugashvili is not a Russian name.


40 posted on 04/21/2024 8:00:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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