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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

"The Bible *IS* infallible in the original texts, yes."

By all means, read ancient greek to me. Im axious to hear it.

"What???? The Dead Sea Scrolls are copies of texts that validated the Bible. There were other books and works in there, but those were rejected due to the strict tests placed upon each work. The 66 books we have are God's Holy Word."

Someone hasn't read the Book of Thomas. (or any of the other finds for that matter)

In one of the Scrolls, it is said Jesus told Matthew that we only go to Hell for a short period of time, and that it is not a permamnet place for sinners. That sound like the Jesus you know?

"Then you are at odds with God's Word. "

No, I am at odds with Man's Word on God's Word.

"I failed to correct you on this point before, but God CANNOT lie. Lying is sin and God cannot sin. "

Seeing as "sin" means "to take from the Lord" I must assume you understand that no matter what God does, He is not "sinning" as He would then be leaving Himself. Even then though, the Ten Commandments do not say "thou shall not lie," they simply state that one should not bear false testamony against your neighbor. In other words, play fair.

As for the idea of a variable rate of decay... what are you smoking and why aren't you sharing? Matter breaks down in a logical pattern (earmark of Intellegent Design). If it didn't, it would all be arbitrary.

"Psalm 119:60 "The entirety of Your word is truth" ENTIRETY. ALL OF IT. If God "dumbed down" His creation as you say, then He is lying and His word is not truth. Sorry, but the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob is not that weak. You're imposing human characteristics and flaws onto God."

Since when did i assert it was a flaw to explain to people (who are stupid) how things exist in a way they could come to terms with? Since when is an abridged version of a story a lie? You assert "ALL OF IT" yet you neglect that again, it was Man who wrote it down. Men who were in power.

Learn to love God on a one-on-one basis. Not in the shadow of some 1700 year old corporation.


60 posted on 09/10/2004 12:55:07 AM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha

"Someone hasn't read the Book of Thomas. (or any of the other finds for that matter) "

Nope, because it had a contrasting theme from the rest of scripture, it was rejected.

"In one of the Scrolls, it is said Jesus told Matthew that we only go to Hell for a short period of time, and that it is not a permamnet place for sinners. That sound like the Jesus you know?"

Correct, that's why those works were rejected as canon.

"No, I am at odds with Man's Word on God's Word. "

And since you reject basic Christian beliefs, we're never going to come to terms...

"As for the idea of a variable rate of decay... what are you smoking and why aren't you sharing? Matter breaks down in a logical pattern (earmark of Intellegent Design). If it didn't, it would all be arbitrary. "

Again, you're not paying attention. I never said arbitrary. I DID clearly state that we don't know what the rate was in the past. That does not dismiss a logical pattern, just not a constant one.

"Since when did i assert it was a flaw to explain to people (who are stupid) how things exist in a way they could come to terms with? Since when is an abridged version of a story a lie?"

God said 6 24-hour days. You're saying He just said that when it was really something else. Therefore you're calling God a liar.

"yet you neglect that again, it was Man who wrote it down. Men who were in power."

I neglect your fantasy statement not at all. I refuted it several times. You don't believe the truth and that is fine...

"Learn to love God on a one-on-one basis. Not in the shadow of some 1700 year old corporation."

I do love God on a one-on-one basis. And we only know Him as He reveals Himself in His word.

At this point, this conversation ends. I could discuss science with a non-believer or a believer without problem. You however are a scoffer, doubting the very word of God yet claiming to believe in Him. You simply gainsay every point from belief by saying "nuh uh" in cleverly more words.

With a believer, I could discuss the Word of God and the scientific evidence for Creation.

With an honest non-believer, I could discuss the scientific evidence for intelligent design.

With you, you're so bogged down on disclaiming the Truth of God's Word that you refuse to see the point of anything. And when I do offer you solid reasoning you ignore it and parrot back something I didn't say.

Fine.

You need to study this site: http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp in more detail.


62 posted on 09/10/2004 6:10:09 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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