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It's about time public schools started teaching the WHOLE truth about slavery....well, it's a start anyway.

Walkin' in "high cotton"

1 posted on 03/17/2006 8:50:55 AM PST by High Cotton
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To: High Cotton

This is very pleasing to see that this is being taught. I am in the middle of a grad class where the professor is painting the South as a bunch of mean spirited heathens that their only goal in life was to have slaves and beat up people to make them agree with them.

Read the book, "American Mobbing" and you will see where he gets most of his information. :)


2 posted on 03/17/2006 8:58:02 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: High Cotton

Alan Singer wants a public school curriculum that focuses on slavery's impact on the northern U.S.

I just bet he does.

5 posted on 03/17/2006 9:01:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: High Cotton

The corrupt democrat machine, Tammany Hall, seized power in NY in 1855 and ruled for the next 70 years. Slavery could not exist without Tammany Hall's approval.


8 posted on 03/17/2006 9:03:11 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: High Cotton; stainlessbanner; stand watie; shuckmaster

It may be a start but don't worry, yanks will be along shortly to 'correct the truth' and explain how this is revisionism and in actuality a young abe took up wearing a stove top hat to cover his halo...


9 posted on 03/17/2006 9:04:01 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: High Cotton

If you ever go to Charleston, SC there's a great place called High Cotton!


14 posted on 03/17/2006 9:12:19 AM PST by MissEdie
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To: High Cotton

Slavery was supported by both the Northern and Southern democrats. The great civil rights republican party was formed to keep them from spreading slavery.


15 posted on 03/17/2006 9:12:43 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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""You always think that happened so far away, only in the South, and a lot of it was right here in our town," she said."


And THAT is the problem - half-truths and sins of omission. Current-day Yankees who basically rule the education establishment (and essentially, the New England view has been the ultimate controller in the country - see how many people think Pilgrims were the 1st settlers in what is now the US, and that Thanksgiving is only from them) often don't even know, much less permit their captive students to know, that EVERYONE in the US/United Colonies/colonies had slavery. Only MA by the time of the Constitution did NOT have slavery. NJ only banned it c. 1830s or so (and apparently, alot of people didn't like that).

So, it wasn't just Southerners who had slaves, or who hated the idea of losing it. I think the big difference was that in the South, there were fewer people to start who managed to have huge tracts of land, built "plantations" (in the wealthy sense we all think of), and needed more of those slaves than did the merchants, lawyers and tiny land-owners in the North, who had too many neighbors to even HAVE large enough holdings that would be hard to manage w/o help (never mind, planting almost useless as a business because of ROCKS everywhere). So, their need for help was less, and it probably didn't phase as many people that slavery would be outlawed.

Worse is the perception given that Northerners liked blacks better. Northerners like most really couldn't care less, nor did alot want to associate with blacks any more than did Southerners. It was purely about slavery, not about race, really.


16 posted on 03/17/2006 9:13:53 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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BTTT


20 posted on 03/17/2006 9:17:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: High Cotton

I just wanted to point out that althought there were slaves in the North. The slaves were orignally sold by their own people and brought to America. It is also true that the republicans were the ones that were against slavery.


27 posted on 03/17/2006 9:29:20 AM PST by Raeganlady (Raeganlady)
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"Singer also tries to engage the students by using rap. Though he admits he's an awful rapper, he dons a T-shirt and cap (appropriately askew) and presses on anyway: "Time to learn the truth, our local his-to-ry, that Long Island was the land of slave-r-ry.""


OoooKay...., this is a bit

a) stupid (rapping)
b) pandering (rapping)
c) too much ("land of slavery" - come on; it was more than that)


30 posted on 03/17/2006 9:35:53 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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southernping


32 posted on 03/17/2006 9:38:09 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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I hope that someday they will take notice of the fact that in the 17th and 18th centuries, more than half of the people who immigrated to this country from the British Isles, did so as indentured servants (a form of slavery) in exchange for their passage.

The original African slaves were in fact, indentured servants, meaning that their servitude had a fixed contractual limit.

34 posted on 03/17/2006 9:42:13 AM PST by Kenton
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In the Northern states slavery was usually ended gradually, by a law saying that anyone born after a certain date to a slave mother would be free (but they wouldn't be free to do what they wanted until some time in their 20s). Slaves born before that date were out of luck...even in the 1850s there were some older slaves in the so-called free states, although a steadily declining number of them.

NY had implemented gradual emancipation earlier--I think 1827 was when the slaves born earlier were finally freed, but some states didn't pass such a law to free the older slaves.

Even during the Civil War Lincoln was willing to accept gradual emancipation in the loyal slave states (but had a hard time persuading any of the states to do that).

Illinois was a free state because of the Northwest Ordinance, but slaves were hired from Kentucky to work in Illinois.

39 posted on 03/17/2006 9:49:46 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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One aspect of the culture divide in America is the notion that during times of slavery the North was it pure-hearted opponent, and the South its evil supporter.

The unwarranted self-righteousness seen in liberal democrats in part derives from this.


47 posted on 03/17/2006 10:07:07 AM PST by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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One aspect of the culture divide in America is the notion that during times of slavery the North was it pure-hearted opponent, and the South its evil supporter.

The unwarranted self-righteousness seen in liberal democrats in part derives from this.


48 posted on 03/17/2006 10:07:13 AM PST by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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Like this is news or unknown except to morons.


50 posted on 03/17/2006 10:12:55 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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Advertisement for Runaway Rivington's New York Gazeteer September 15, 1774 The Library Company of Philadelphia

Advertisement Offering a Slave for Sale New York Weekly-Journal April 15, 1734 New-York Historical Society Advertisements for the sale of slaves offer historians a wealth of information about the physical appearance and skills of individuals. They also shed light on the survival of Africanisms in dress and body adornment and proficiencies in occupations and language(s). The woman who is described in this advertisement could only speak English. Thus she could not communicate easily with those New Yorkers, both white and black, whose primary language was Dutch.

59 posted on 03/17/2006 10:28:18 AM PST by TexKat
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[ Teaching about the slave trade "is the right thing to do," Wright said. "Absent South Carolina, the biggest importer of slaves was New York City." ]

Thats one "secret", the other is slavery in AFRICA...
Slavery was common in Africa.. even normal.. still is..

63 posted on 03/17/2006 10:32:40 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Well, the essential truth about slavery is that it is a moral abomination and it is shame that some folks were so blind and others so committed to this evil that we had to fight a war to end it, a war killed a half million Americans.


69 posted on 03/17/2006 10:42:48 AM PST by edsheppa
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There is a lot to it, a huge part of the politics of the day, everyone was very conscious of the ethical problems. The trade itself was heavily present in the North, New York, Philadelphia. Virginia had stopped buying slaves because they had a self-sustaining population already. After the Louisiana purchase, the migration into the Mississippi delta region was predominantly by farmers that subsisted by slave labor, and this expanded northward through Missouri and threatened to engulf the West (as it was known at the time). Much of the debate in Congress centered on slavery issues.


70 posted on 03/17/2006 10:42:51 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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