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That 4 billion year figure refers to the so-called Late Heavy Bombardment, and was ridiculous even in 2003. Impacts continue to the current time, and obviously the existence of debris on eccentric orbits shows recent catastrophism, not an "Oort Cloud". Regardless, recent reimaging of various parts of Mars' surface has shown at least twenty visible impacts in just seven or eight years. At least one topic about this has just appeared on FR and I think I pinged it. :')
1 posted on 12/21/2006 12:27:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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Oops, forgot the opening quote mark on the excerpt.
Catastrophism

2 posted on 12/21/2006 12:27:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Don't bother, I haven't updated my profile since 11/16/06. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Does this mean that John Carter wore a heavy coat?


3 posted on 12/21/2006 12:59:19 AM PST by Eaker (You were given the choice between war & dishonor. You chose dishonor & you will have war. -Churchill)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sure puts a damper on the whole "water on Mars"/"life on Mars"/"let's get humans to Mars for trillions of $$$" agenda.


4 posted on 12/21/2006 1:01:09 AM PST by billybudd
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Mars was 'always cold and frozen'
by David Cohen
New Scientist
22 August 2003
The idea that Mars was once a warm place, awash with oceans that could harboured early life has taken a knock - new data suggests it was always cold, frozen and probably lifeless. A survey of the Red Planet's surface has revealed only traces of carbonates, minerals that should have formed in abundant quantities if Mars once had expansive seas. On Earth, the mineral is found in limestone and chalk deposits around the world. The data was collected by a thermal emission spectrometer (TES) on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and was analysed by researchers at Arizona State University in the US... "We found carbonate, but we've only trace amounts," said team leader Philip Christensen. "This really points to a cold, frozen, icy Mars that has probably always been that way. We believe that the relatively small amounts that we see probably did not come from oceans, but from the [carbon dioxide] atmosphere interacting directly with dust," he said... "We see so much erosion in canyons, and valleys and plains that have been stripped bare," he said. "It seems unlikely that the carbonate rocks could all be hiding out of view. When you look at the entire planet, you'd think that somewhere a little piece would be exposed."

5 posted on 12/21/2006 1:04:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Don't bother, I haven't updated my profile since 11/16/06. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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It is a fact that ice/water is present on mars.


9 posted on 12/21/2006 1:08:21 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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