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To: Bernard Marx; SunkenCiv
' I began to lose interest when the author of the first conflated human and geologic time by saying Lake Titicaca was directly connected to the Pacific within human times! Please!'

Darwin's Beagle field notebooks (1831-1836)

I have certain proof that the S. part of continent of S. America has been elevated from 4 to 500 feet within the epoch of the existence of such shells as are now found on the coasts. It may possibly have been much more on the sea-coast & probably more in the Cordilleras. If the Andes were lowered till they formed (perhaps 3-4000 ft) a mere peninsula with outlying Islands, would not the climate probably be more like that of the S. Sea Islands, than its present parched nature. — At a remote Geological aera, I can show that this grand chain consisted of Volcanic Islands, covered with luxuriant forests, some of the trees out one of which, 15 feet in circumference, I have seen silicified & imbedded in marine strata. — If the mountains rose slowly, the change of climate would also deteriorate slowly; I know of no reason for denying that a large part of this may have taken place since S. America was peopled...

http://darwin-online.org.uk/

18 posted on 02/03/2007 12:21:21 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
I have certain proof that the S. part of continent of S. America has been elevated from 4 to 500 feet within the epoch of the existence of such shells as are now found on the coasts.

LOL. Now do you care to investigate what that epoch's time period might be? Some sea creatures have been around millions upon millions of years, much longer than our species -- especially modern humans. We go back only a million years or less. Also, there's a huge difference between the 400-500 foot elevation change in your example and the 12,500-foot elevation of Lake Titicaca! Localized elevation changes like Darwin describes can easily occur over "short" spans of a few million years. Mountain-building is a slow, incremental process that takes place on an enormously long time scale. This site gives a little insight into how it occurs: Orogeny

19 posted on 02/03/2007 8:58:42 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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