[SunkenCiv]

This is really just a matter of building a model using math and physics, not unlike the (classical) black hole concept.

[Bernard Marx]

This is really just a matter of building a model using math and physics, not unlike the (classical) black hole concept.

Or maybe global warming? ;o) Be sure all relevant data are included!

[festus]

Yes you are right and I do understand what goes into this.

However I do think we stretch it a good bit beyond what is reasonable.