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To: Soliton; TheWasteLand

It amazes and horrifies me how some use Al Gore’s scam as an excuse for knee-jerk opposition to any and all science. As with all things you have to look under the hood before judging. Tunguska was no myth.

>>>This is the next great “crisis” the left will use to justify centralizing power and control?

Speaking of chicken little. How do you propose the wicked international conspiracies of lefties or Bilderbergers or whoever could seize “control” over you through another space project? Did something happen with Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo I missed?

There was a conference in 2004 on this subject. Apollo astronaut Rusty Schweickart and Cong. Dana Rohrabacher had some interesting comments.

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=2071


4 posted on 07/06/2008 12:57:13 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb
Speaking of chicken little.

I'll ignore the snark in your reply and show you what I'm talking about.

The left has a long track record of using "crises" to justify increased control and centralization.

See Marx, Karl. The crisis was the "inevitable" collapse of capitalism. To avoid catastrophe, power must be centralized in the hands of the proletariat - actually in the hands of bureaucrats who know how to "plan" best. See "The Black Book of Communism" for details.

See Wilson, Woodrow. The crisis was World War I. To avoid catastrophe, power must be centralized in the hands of bureaucrats who know how to "plan" best. See the book "Liberal Fascism" for details on the lengths to which he centralized power and control.

See Roosevelt, Franklin D.. The crisis was the Great Depression. To avoid catastrophe, power must be centralized in the hands of bureaucrats who know how to "plan" best (called the Brain Trust). See the book "The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression" for details. Also, read up on the National Recovery Administration if you want a taste of centralization of power and control under FDR.

See Gore, Al. The crisis is "global warming" and the destruction of Earth's biosphere. To avoid catastrophe, power must be centralized in the hands of scientists - actually in the hands of bureaucrats who know how to "plan" best. See Kyoto Accord, Carbon Tax, Carbon Cap and Trade, etc.

Do you understand what I'm talking about now?

5 posted on 07/06/2008 1:14:11 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: tlb
How do you propose the wicked international conspiracies of lefties or Bilderbergers or whoever could seize “control” over you through another space project?

Fox is talking about it now.

Dana Rorhabacher's proposal from last month will be siezed upon:

"Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-California) said in a phone interview on Friday that he supports former Apollo astronaut Russell Schweickart's proposal to assign responsibility for dealing with threatening asteroids to a government agency. Rohrabacher said he will push Congress and the president to "take action on this by the end of the year." Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-California) said in a phone interview on Friday that he supports former Apollo astronaut Russell Schweickart's proposal to assign responsibility for dealing with threatening asteroids to a government agency. Rohrabacher said he will push Congress and the president to "take action on this by the end of the year."

The U.N. will release a report next year with recommendations:

"The possibility that an asteroid will strike the Earth on Sunday, April 13 2036 has reverberated across the globe, with the world’s citizens wondering what anyone is doing about it with the UN at least two years away from version 1 of an anti asteroid" plan.http://www.itwire.com/content/view/9748/1066/

A global plan requiring sacrifice will be recommended:

"The biggest problem for any treaty as Schweickart sees it is the inherently altruistic nature of anwering the problem - by funding a global plan nations would have to accept individual sacrifices for the good of the whole of planet. Familiarity with the toothless Kyoto Protocol on climate change is instructive on how difficult that can be to achieve. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/17/un_asteroid_treaty/"

The Russians will get on board:

ST. PETERSBURG. June 30 (Interfax) - The asteroid Apophis may hit planet Earth in 2036, Director of the Russian Academy of Sciences' Applied Astronomy Institute Andrei Filkenstein told the media on Monday. "Apophis will reach the orbit of geostationary satellites in 2029. It may hit Earth later, as it makes a number of revolutions," he said. "It is highly probable that the asteroid will hit the Earth in 2036 if its trajectory passes through a 1.5-kilometer 'gate'," he said. There is no way to stave off this danger so far, but scientists have suggested a number of worthy ideas, the astronomer said. http://bigblog.com/space_science/asteroid-impacts-on-earth-a-protection-plan-1488314234.html

Non-governmental Groups are already forming complete with professional lobbyists.

Just before the UN releases its report, there will be scare articles, movies, TV specials, all designed to frighten the crud out of people.

Hoolywood stars will hold a telethon

Look up "Sallust's Theorem"

8 posted on 07/06/2008 5:33:42 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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