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1 posted on 08/29/2008 9:29:10 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Bump.

Sounds like a potential way to screw with someone else’s nuclear armory while it sits in a bunker.


2 posted on 08/29/2008 9:33:47 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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hmmmmmmm......


3 posted on 08/29/2008 9:33:49 AM PDT by raygunfan
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Interesting stuff.

Yup. And you know what else? It's just hard to beat a good hamburger, but cornbread crumbled up in a glass of cold buttermilk is mighty good eats if you don't want to go out.

4 posted on 08/29/2008 9:34:48 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the post!


5 posted on 08/29/2008 9:37:19 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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There’s a fairly easy way to test this: use the power telemetry data from the Voyager, Pioneer, Galileo, Cassini, and other spacecraft, which are all essentially powered by nuclear decay. See if the decay rate shows unexpected changes as the vehicles moved further from the Earth.


6 posted on 08/29/2008 9:38:41 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; DaveLoneRanger; SunkenCiv

Pinging some of the more knowledgeable and interesting Freepers who might be able to shed some light on this subject.


7 posted on 08/29/2008 9:42:35 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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HOORAY!


9 posted on 08/29/2008 9:47:24 AM PDT by bvw
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When we are closer to the sun time space is more curved. Perhaps the change in time space curvature affects the decay rate. Considering that decay rates are affected by relativity, I see no reason why they would not also be affected by time space curvature.
11 posted on 08/29/2008 10:01:37 AM PDT by chaos_5
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Fine structure constant being influenced?
Another idea is that the effect is caused by some kind of interaction with the neutrino flux from the sun’s interior...

On another note;
This makes us wonder again, about how high levels of neutrino bombardment, along with high gamma radiation, may possibly have been in the past significant drivers or factors of evolutionary changes?

Pure speculation on my part, of course. And not my own original idea or pondering, either.

12 posted on 08/29/2008 10:05:20 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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Thanks for the post. In this time of nation-wide political craziness, it's pleasant to have something empirically analyzable to fall back on.
14 posted on 08/29/2008 10:26:12 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Barkeep, in honor of John McCain, a round of prune daiquiris for all!)
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a theory developed by John Barrow at the University of Cambridge in the UK and Douglas Shaw at the University of London, suggests that the sun produces a field that changes the value of the fine structure constant on Earth as its distance from the sun varies during each orbit.

Since the fine structure constant is computed from the values of the electric charge, Planck's constant, and the speed of light, one or more of these would have to be changing with distance from the sun if this theory were true.

If the speed of light were changing with distance from the sun it would produce a shift in the observed positions of stars that would have been noticed already.

15 posted on 08/29/2008 10:39:04 AM PDT by wideminded
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I'm too lazy to track down the decay methods of those isotopes, but I wonder if there is a different change based on how the atoms decay? Is alpha decay more or less affected than beta decay? How about spontanious fission of uranium?
17 posted on 08/29/2008 10:43:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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What a great post! At this moment I can feel brain cells being activated from a 30 year old unused undergradute Chemistry major. I bookmarked this one.


18 posted on 08/29/2008 11:12:19 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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This is more evidence that goes with what we knew for years. The big thing is it puts another nail in the coffin of those who stand by the faulty dating of rocks and organic material. Long story short, this is another plus for the side that supports the new earth philosophy as apposed to the billions and billions of years the old earth theorists believe in.


19 posted on 08/29/2008 11:12:27 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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Seems pretty easy to test, have 2 different labs switch methods and do the test the same time they did the previous year.

I immediately wondered if proximity to the sun somehow affected their test equipment rather than the materials themselves.


20 posted on 08/29/2008 11:22:50 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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Paging Colonel Samantha Carter. Will Colonel Carter please pick-up the white courtesy phone...
21 posted on 08/29/2008 11:39:36 AM PDT by pabianice
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Nuclear Ping


25 posted on 08/29/2008 11:49:05 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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Interesting. This could have some GUTsy implications.


26 posted on 08/29/2008 11:49:51 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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Does this mean that all of the Atomic Clocks are out of calibration?


27 posted on 08/29/2008 11:57:32 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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John Barrow at the University of Cambridge in the UK and Douglas Shaw at the University of London, suggests that the sun produces a field that changes the value of the fine structure constant on Earth as its distance from the sun varies during each orbit.
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30 posted on 08/29/2008 12:36:42 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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