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To: econjack

The Universe is roughly 14 Billion years. According to the end-theory you believe in it may last another trillion years or exist into infinity. Your lifespan is roughly 75 years if you’re lucky. Your existence is less than a milli-microsecond in all of time. So exactly why are we here now in this universe? Why doesn’t the Universe have a shorter life-span? Why don’t we have a longer life-span, or live forever? What’s the point? Obviously humans will not exist on this planet indefinitely. Another 500 years? 5,000 years? 500,000 years? Highly doubtful. Highly doubtful we will live extraterrestrial. The Universe is so vast, so hostile. Why? You can discover every principle of science and every Law, but unless you can uncover the ‘reason’ we exist, and why we exist now, and the actual purpose of our existence, then we have learned nothing.


11 posted on 04/14/2009 11:04:18 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: Doc Savage
unless you can uncover the ‘reason’ we exist, and why we exist now, and the actual purpose of our existence, then we have learned nothing

Not true. Learning how something was made gives us incite into who made it.

14 posted on 04/14/2009 11:26:19 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Doc Savage
...unless you can uncover the ‘reason’ we exist, and why we exist now, and the actual purpose of our existence, then we have learned nothing.

That seems a bit harsh. We have learned a lot in a relatively short period of time, but much is left to discover. Arguing Descartes' point and stretching it to say we have learned nothing makes no sense to me, especially in light of all that we have learned. Whether we exist because of some hiccup of nature or were placed here by a higher being is moot. The fact remains we are here and we should learn what we can in the short time we do exist.

15 posted on 04/14/2009 11:35:57 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Doc Savage
So exactly why are we here now in this universe? Now or later, now or earlier ... if you believe you are an accident which has happened, what difference would it make?

Why doesn’t the Universe have a shorter life-span? Why don’t we have a longer life-span, or live forever? And you're assuming you don't exist forever? Still looking at only the physical spacetime manifestations around you and not looking with the spiritual eye? 'What IS the Universe' may be far more than you have discerned at this primitive time in the history of the Universe. And that may be the point of you being alive in a body now, before the greater Universe is yet to be discerned and observed using the power of the sceintific method. Spiritual Faith is a really tough sell if there are no unanswered great questions. Faith may be a force or dimension of extreme importance that you learn to express now while it cannot get others into more danger than it does. When you use faith to sit upon a chair, you endanger no one else in the room usually if the chair fails to hold you. If you express faith that God is and is a rewarder of those who dilligently seek Him, you harm no one and may actually develop your yet to be vital 'faith force'.

What’s the point? Obviously humans will not exist on this planet indefinitely. Another 500 years? 5,000 years? 500,000 years? If you are not a spiritual being in a physical body, what difference does it make, you were and then you are not. BUT, if you are a spiritual being in a short-lived physical body, you will be 'graduating' to the next stage of your existence more quickly than say a being who spends five or six hundred years in the physical body. The time scales of these stages are up to the Creator's plan, if you believe you are a spirit in a body now.

"What's the point?" Sad, to ask that when you could ask, 'what has God in Mind with this arrangement?' If there is no God, you lose nothing in taking the 'hope' approach, whereas the 'what's the point' removes not only hope but purpose, unnecessarily.

19 posted on 04/14/2009 8:00:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Doc Savage
but unless you can uncover the ‘reason’ we exist, and why we exist now, and the actual purpose of our existence, then we have learned nothing.

We are the latest parasite to inhabit this rock. The next big rock that hits it will be the end of our time, and the begining of the next parasite.

22 posted on 04/15/2009 9:37:39 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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