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1 posted on 11/22/2009 8:10:57 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Good morning GGG. Have you heard about Rifqa Bary? She is imprisoned in solitary confinement in Ohio for the “crime” of converting from islam to Christianity.

http://yumurl.com/aIdHXi


2 posted on 11/22/2009 8:19:22 AM PST by rae4palin
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 11/22/2009 8:20:21 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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The skeptic in all of us needs to take the publications of Brian Thomas with a very small pinch of salt. He is predisposed to taking a legitimate paper, mining a nugget from it, stating that it then “suggests” an alternate meaning or purpose to the paper and then concluding with a classical “if-then” recitation of his agenda. He is the YEC version of Erich von Däniken.

Then, to our detriment, process is then repeated on Thomas’ article by GGG.


5 posted on 11/22/2009 8:27:10 AM PST by Natural Law
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"Scientists were investigating organic chemicals trapped in an Italian sedimentary rock formation when they found evidence that an extinct fungus feasted on dead wood during a time when the world’s forests had been catastrophically eradicated.1 What could have caused such a universal effect on forests, and why does organic material remain in rocks that are supposedly 251.4 million years old?"2

This statement is blatantly false. The artice he is citing does not state that they were investigating “organic” material. Lets just take a look what they really say.

"Researchers had previously been unsure as to whether Reduviasporonites were a type of fungus or algae. By analysing the carbon and nitrogen content of the fossilised remains of the microscopic organisms, the scientists identified them as a type of wood-rotting fungus that would have lived inside dead trees".

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6 posted on 11/22/2009 8:27:59 AM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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This Permian Extinction Event was caused by the Siberian Traps volcanic events which were the largest series of volcanoes known about.

An area nearly the size of a small continent was flooded by magma as deep as 4 kms in some places.


7 posted on 11/22/2009 8:28:41 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: GodGunsGuts

Peddling BTMS* lies on Sunday..........have you no shame??


12 posted on 11/22/2009 9:10:16 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"and why does organic material remain in rocks that are supposedly 251.4 million years old?"

Easy! - - Those were sandflea years...

21 posted on 11/22/2009 1:40:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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Have any of your antagonists given any tumble to the reason why you post these ICR articles and other similar articles?
35 posted on 11/22/2009 4:21:16 PM PST by YHAOS
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Hi Jim,

Did you change your mind about Creation/ID articles and papers being allowed to be posted in News? Because, certain mods are back to banishing Creation/ID posts to Gen/Chat.

All the best—GGG


48 posted on 11/22/2009 7:29:46 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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What could have caused such a universal effect on forests, and why does organic material remain in rocks that are supposedly 251.4 million years old?

This is a nice set-up for the lies to come. No, BTMS*, they didn't exactly find "organic materials"....they found breakdown products of organic chemicals.

If Reduviasporonites were algae, then their widespread distribution around the globe would indicate that the world was dominated by “ponding and swamping.” However, if they were fungi, then the globe was dominated by “massive loss of standing biomass”―a worldwide deforestation catastrophe. Intriguingly, the global nature of the great Flood, as described in Genesis, matches the universality of either scenario.

Wow.....made that all up on his own? Never heard of salt water algae? you betcha BTMS*...everything perfectly matches the notion that Man lived with dinosaurs until 4351 years ago. Suuuuuuuure it does.

The scientists associated the timing of this fungus’ proliferation on earth with the Permian-Triassic extinction event, wherein about 96 percent of marine and 70 percent of land organisms went extinct. At that time, “the world’s forests were wiped out,”1 providing a planet-wide food source for the fungus.

...and why exactly will you, a scientific ignoramus, ever take a scientist's research without twisting it to suit your needs?

The catastrophe has been associated with a tremendous, continent-sized lava flow that made what is known today as the Siberian Traps. This covers an astounding 100,000 square miles of Siberia. In 1991, the flow was implicated as a possible trigger for worldwide extinction.4 In this view, the toxic fumes from the massive lava fields created enough acid rain to kill earth’s forests.

OYG.....a RATIONAL explanation....on to stupid questions...

But if this hypothesis is correct, why were more marine creatures exterminated than land creatures? It should seemingly be the other way around.

Stupid questions from a dumbarse. Gee, BTMS*, MAYBE, just MAYBE catastrophic environmental problems would have a tremendous affect on marine environments of all kinds on all levels of the food chain? Ya think? Nawwww.....doesn't fit the Flood and Man living with dinosaurs.

The chemical analysis was performed with an instrument sensitive enough to measure tiny amounts of carbon and nitrogen, including their isotopes. Did these elements come from the bodies of the original microfossils, or were their well-preserved cell wall shapes comprised of replacement material?

Bet you never played with a MassSpec before. Stupid question designed to drive the thinking of the ignorant reader. It's a combination of both, Dippy...not an "either/or". The organic chemical breakdown products were left over from the organism that was fossilized. What you're finding out is that while bones will fossilize more completely....just think calcium, whereas organisms not made of bone or shell will have remnants of organic chemicals. SHOCKER!! ....but this leads to talk of dinosaur soft tissues....

Similar to the chemical analyses of dinosaur soft tissue, including well-characterized collagen found in “fossil” dinosaur bone,

Wow, BTMS*....how about lying some more? Yes, despite you """", the dinosaur tissues were fossilized, that's why they had to demineralize them.

the existence of organic cell wall material from so long ago presents a challenge to the age interpretation of millions of years assigned to the remains.

False claim, BTMS*.....and they didn't find "organic cell wall material"...they found Organic break down products...chemical remnants of what used to be organic compounds. That they can still detect carbon and nitrogen is wholly unsurprising to me......of course, I do a lot of protein chemistry.

Rambling on with selective quoting about chitin gets you nowhere.

A Genesis Flood model might incorporate all of this data with fewer assumptions.

Riiiiiiiight....a Genesis Flood model is wholly based on assumptions that you, sir, are twisting all science to incorrectly fit.

From the account given in the biblical text, more land creatures would have survived than marine creatures, since land creatures were preserved on a giant barge.

....except all those pesky dinosaurs that were somehow left behind.

And when “the fountains of the great deep [broke] up,”6 hot mantle material—including lava, steam, and water―would have been ejected up through earth’s crust. This singular destructive event would have provided the tremendous energy required to have made a Siberia-sized lava flow.

.....and this is just a ludicrous statement. Eart to BTMS*, you think you can learn the difference between lava flows occuring on land and those occuring underwater? How exactly is Siberia part of "the great deep"??

According to most Flood geologists

There is no such thing as a Flood geologist. There are geologists, and there are people that twist science to fit their theology.

the fossil-bearing rock strata were deposited during the Flood year.

....a completely ludicrous notion.....but so is Man living in the time of 100+ species of large meat eating dinosaurs.

And the recent occurrence of the Flood, as determined by biblical chronology, answers the question of why such short-lived Reduviasporonites chemicals persist in sedimentary rocks up to this day.

False conclusion, BTMS*....stop perverting science to fit your theology.

79 posted on 11/23/2009 6:13:42 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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