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Today's Kuiper belt orbits View larger version | The elongated, highly inclined orbits of many of the denizens in the doughnut-shaped Kuiper belt (shown in blue) suggest that a massive intruder barged into the belt early in the history of the solar system, ejecting bodies and jumbling orbits.Illustration by Anil Rao

Astronomers look to the Kuiper belt for clues to the solar systems history

1 posted on 01/14/2010 3:15:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/14/2010 3:15:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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...In one scenario, suggested earlier in the decade by Levison and his colleagues, Neptune and its three larger compatriots -- Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus -- were once packed together into a region only about half the diameter of Neptune's current orbit...
 
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3 posted on 01/14/2010 3:19:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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same author, was referenced in the article:

http://sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/40390/title/The_Solar_Systems_Big_Bang


4 posted on 01/14/2010 3:20:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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dead links? didn't check 'em.
Gas giants credited for solar system formation
by Maggie McKee
25 May 2005
Jupiter and Saturn form the basis of a "grand unified theory" of the solar system, according to new computer simulations. The research traces three seemingly unrelated phenomena - the giant planets' orbits, craters on the Moon, and the behaviour of certain asteroids - to the motions of the two gas giants nearly four billion years ago... an international team of researchers has performed computer simulations that reproduce the orbits of the four giant planets - Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune - in exquisite detail. The team has published a trio of papers about their findings in Nature. In the model, the four planets form in 10 million years within the current orbit of Uranus. Surrounding them in a ring are several thousand rocky objects called planetesimals, left over from the formation of the planets... planetesimals begin to "leak" into the giant planet zone and the orbits of the giant planets gradually change. After 700 million years, Saturn has migrated outward and Jupiter inward to the extent that they reach a "resonance" point. This means they begin to march in lockstep with each other, with Jupiter completing two orbits around the Sun for every one of Saturn's. The resonance allows the pair to greatly disturb the orbits of the other planets.
Did Jupiter Bully Other Planets in Sibling Rivalry?
by Robert Roy Britt
8 December 1999
One possible explanation, discussed in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature, is that Uranus and Neptune formed much closer to the center of the action than their current positions might indicate. In this scheme, Jupiter and Saturn were bullies of a protoplanetary playground, shoving the other two future giants out of the way.
Jupiter gave birth to Uranus and Neptune
by Dr David Whitehouse
8 December, 1999
Not too long ago, scientists regarded the orbits that the planets circle our Sun as being the ones they were born in. Now they are realising that this is not the case. Uranus and Neptune may have migrated outwards and Jupiter may have come in from the outer cold. Scientists have always been slightly puzzled by the positions of Uranus and Neptune because in their present locations it would have taken longer than the age of the Solar System for them to form. Scientists from Queen's University suggest that the four giant planets started out as rocky cores in the Jupiter-Saturn region, and that the cores of Uranus and Neptune were tossed out by Jupiter's and Saturn's gravity.
Jupiter's Composition Throws Planet-formation Theories into Disarray
by Robert Roy Britt
Nov 17 1999
Examining four-year-old data, researchers have found significantly elevated levels of argon, krypton and xenon in Jupiter's atmosphere that may force a rethinking of theories about how the planet, and possibly the entire solar system, formed. Prevailing theories of planetary formation hold that the sun gathered itself together in the center of a pancake-shaped disk of gas and dust, then the planets begin to take shape by cleaning up the leftovers. In Jupiter's current orbit, 5 astronomical units from the sun, temperatures are too warm for the planetesimals to have trapped the noble gases. Only in the Kuiper belt -- a frigid region of the solar system more than 40 AU from the sun -- could planetesimals have trapped argon, krypton and xenon.

While lead researcher Tobias Owen does not put much stock in the idea that Jupiter might have migrated inward to its present position, other scientists on the team say the idea merits consideration. Owen expects the probes will find similarly high levels of noble gases in Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. Hints of these gases have even been found in the thick atmosphere of Venus, another planet now begging more study.

5 posted on 01/14/2010 3:27:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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And further out is the Oort cloud...extending 3 light years. Mighty big.


8 posted on 01/14/2010 4:19:01 PM PST by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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