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Private Investigator: Joran Van der Sloot went to Peru with $25,000 from FBI extortion sting.
Fox News & AP ^ | 6/10/2010 | Fox News

Posted on 06/09/2010 11:39:27 AM PDT by sodpoodle

A private investigator who helped build an extortion case against Joran Van der Sloot says the young Dutchman should have been arrested before he went to Peru.

Bo Dietl says FBI agents recorded a meeting last month in Aruba where Van der Sloot requested money from a lawyer for the family of Natalee Holloway in exchange for information about her 2005 disappearance.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: doj; ericholder; extort; extortion; extradition; fbi; fbisting; flores; floresmurder; holloway; interpol; joran; joranvandersloot; murder; murderinvestigation; vandersloot; whereisnatalee
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To: sodpoodle
without INTERPOL

According to this NY Post Article interpol was involved.

21 posted on 06/09/2010 12:24:40 PM PDT by longjack
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To: WayneS
Isn’t the FBI an agency of the U.S. Department of Justice?

Not any more. It's just another local branch of these guys:


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

22 posted on 06/09/2010 12:28:40 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: sodpoodle

Thank you for the info. fifty-six minutes is plenty of time for an argument, murder and a shower. Someone on another thread asked why his hair was darker than an earlier photo and a shower might explain that.


23 posted on 06/09/2010 12:28:52 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: sodpoodle

Natalee Holloway’s father should have “paid” this psycho with a 12 gauge several years ago.


24 posted on 06/09/2010 12:30:18 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: WayneS

There is some INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL DIVISION of the Justice Department which would be responsible, I don’t recall the precise name which Old Deck Hand provided days ago.


25 posted on 06/09/2010 12:43:16 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I thought it was confirmed that the money did not come from the family, but rather, the FBI obtained it from some source — maybe a fund set up for such operations???

People say the “sting” was botched. I don’t know about that. Regardless, the operation has set in place a backup plan whereby, should JVDS somehow get off on the Peruvian murder charges, the U.S. could have him shipped here to face fraud/extortion charges. One way or the other, this guy is going to do time.


26 posted on 06/09/2010 12:47:04 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: WayneS; OldDeckHand
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2528573/replies?c=82

"....And, it's the DOJ, specifically the DOJ's Criminal Division's Office of International Affairs, that effects extradition from foreign countries, not the FBI, per se. This is the division that prepares the paperwork, submits the formal request and request provisional arrest for the suspect, if warranted.

Again, this is why Holder's fingerprints are all over this. While there are a lot of career DOJ lawyers in these offices, it's a political appointee that runs them. This is Obama's problem, all the way." <<<<<

82 posted on 06/05/2010 2:42:57 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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27 posted on 06/09/2010 12:48:47 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle

Looks like he was looking for a vulnerable winner at the Casino. Apparently he was not registered to play in the tournament as was she. He wanted her winings. He is referred to as a “railbird”:

http://www.gambling911.com/poker/van-der-sloot-was-“rail-bird”-latin-american-poker-tour-060410.html


28 posted on 06/09/2010 1:23:12 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: sarasota

June 9th, 2010 12:20 am ET

When I first heard Stephanie’s father was very influential, like most I was hopeful that that would mean Urine would be punished severely .

But one must consider the culture of a country where young women simply do not go to a man’s hotel room in the middle of the night. Her father is probably rightly concerned about her reputation as she will be remembered.

So from the beginning he stated she died so that Urine could be held accountable. In our society there would be no criticism of the victim , but it may be that in Peruvian culture some might blame the victim for going with a stranger she just met. Thus the lesbian label as well.

As the interview with Greta showed, JVDS will tell people what they want to hear. A scenario where Stephanie discovered his secrets is probably the best scenario anyone could come up with to put her in the best possible light and have her reputation in death be intact in a culture that chaperones dates of it’s children and frowns on premarital sex. I hope this post isn’t misconstrued, my heart goes out to this victim. My fear is that the authorities in Peru will accept a story that leaves her reputation intact.

So if Urine senses this in the interrogation, he will play to it to possibly get a lighter sentence. I make no judgment against Stephanie, she is a poor victim of a chamelion that could entice her to his room.

Hopefully, like with Jeffrey Dahmer, things will get hammered out once he hits gen pop.


29 posted on 06/09/2010 1:37:08 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: hennie pennie

You can bet your bottom dollar that the FBI had a BIG hand in sending the money, they were setting this case in motion.


30 posted on 06/09/2010 2:09:13 PM PDT by gulfcoast6 (God Is!!!)
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To: Cementjungle

I belive they got the truth out of him, probally had a 6’8. 323 pounds fella standing in front of him cracking his knuckles.


31 posted on 06/09/2010 2:12:32 PM PDT by gulfcoast6 (God Is!!!)
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To: sodpoodle
FBI Official Responds to Blackmail Sting Criticism
Posted by Edecio Martinez, Barry Leibowitz

NEW YORK (CBS) - The FBI is defending its failure to arrest murder suspect Joran van der Sloot on extortion charges in the Natalee Holloway case, saying they were getting closer to making a murder arrest in that case, and didn't want to blow the investigation.

[....]

"According to the official, the FBI felt that for the first time in five years they were on the brink of finding Natalee Holloway's body. The FBI says it was receiving statements from van der Sloot about how and where he hid the body. Aruban officials, along with FBI agents, "were working this very intensely," including looking at blueprints, making plans to dig and bring in cadaver dogs.

"We were not trying to build a white collar extortion case. We were trying to solve the crime," the senior official told CBS News.

The official said there was no evidence van der Sloot, now 22, was a serial killer or about to commit another crime....."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20007271-504083.html

32 posted on 06/09/2010 2:14:47 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: DJ MacWoW

Don’t miss post no.32 - response from the FBI, via CBS News.


33 posted on 06/09/2010 2:36:02 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
They say "they were getting closer to making a murder arrest in that case, and didn't want to blow the investigation."

But Dietl says something very different in this article: AP sources: FBI paid money in van der Sloot sting

"He said he pushed Natalee Holloway, her head hit a rock," Dietl said. He said the father was told the body was buried "near a construction site near their house." But the information proved to be false, said the private investigator.

"He's lied so much, we don't know," said Dietl, who has been working with Kelly on the Holloway case.

Who to believe?

34 posted on 06/09/2010 2:55:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: All

The FBI did NOT provide the 25 thousand dollars:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2526320/replies?c=927


35 posted on 06/09/2010 3:37:27 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle; nutmeg; Nick Danger
Do we have a Freudian photo link error at allvoices.com? Prophetic--or the source of conspiracy theories for generations to come?


36 posted on 06/09/2010 8:30:41 PM PDT by NautiNurse (ObamaCare uses Bernie Madoff theory of economics)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I don’t believe Bo Dietl. IMNSHO, I believe that Bo Dietl frequently is overly sensationalistic in his statements, so there’s no way that I would EVER take his word over that of the FBI.


37 posted on 06/10/2010 5:26:27 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle

I find it ironic that his real or imagined dealings in the sex slave business will be exactly what he is in for shortly in a Peruvian prison.


38 posted on 06/10/2010 7:25:50 AM PDT by Critical Bill (An awareness of the Muslim contradiction must gnaw in even the dullest fundamentalist brain.)
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To: hennie pennie

Ok. Thanks!


39 posted on 06/10/2010 7:37:07 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: WayneS; hennie pennie
"Isn’t the FBI an agency of the U.S. Department of Justice?"

Yes, it absolutely is. The Director of the FBI (Mueller) reports directly the US Attorney General.

But, as a political matter, you will frequently see administrations blame the FBI when investigations go south, rather than the US Attorney's office (or DOJ), because the FBI is presumably insulated from politics. IOW, because the DOJ is run by political appointees (in DC and in the District offices) and the FBI is (frequently) run by a man appointed by a previous administration (as is this case) and has field offices run by people who are not political appointees, it gives the current administration cover to blame the FBI.

As a practical matter of federal law enforcement, when you have these kinds of international stings, operations that will eventually require extradition, you can bet that the local USA office was involved from the very beginning, as well as the DOJ's CD office of International Affairs, which is the office responsible for effecting international arrest and extradition.

Lastly, if they had problems getting an indictment, that's (most likely) not the fault of the FBI, but rather, the fault of the local USA, who of course is an Obama political appointee. Long story short, an Obama political appointee is who probably monkeyed this up, not the career FBI agents.

40 posted on 06/10/2010 8:37:58 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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