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1 posted on 08/25/2010 8:59:19 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Cut rate ping.


2 posted on 08/25/2010 8:59:58 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

That is interesting. Seems to indicate the possibility of something happening faster than light speed.


3 posted on 08/25/2010 9:05:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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It’s cool when science changes. That’s how we know it’s real science.


4 posted on 08/25/2010 9:06:08 AM PDT by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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From the correlation-does-not-prove-causation dept.


5 posted on 08/25/2010 9:06:17 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Also has ramifications in nuclear bomb and bomb making detection.


6 posted on 08/25/2010 9:07:49 AM PDT by bvw
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To: decimon

Interesting. Did I understand this correctly? Are they saying that solar flare activity can possibly affect the half-life of an isotope?

Huh. That smacks of SOMETHING heretofore unexplored...


7 posted on 08/25/2010 9:10:03 AM PDT by rlmorel (America: Why should a product be deemed a failure if you ignore assembly and operation instructions?)
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To: decimon

Since there were changes before the flare, what was happening before?

I’m going to get real technical here-is a flare like a sneeze as opposed to a fart?

I love science. :)


10 posted on 08/25/2010 9:14:18 AM PDT by huldah1776
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Would this raise questions on the use of carbon dating?


15 posted on 08/25/2010 9:18:03 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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“...in classrooms around the world, where students are taught that the rate of decay of a specific radioactive material is a constant. This concept is relied upon, for example, when anthropologists use carbon-14 to date ancient artifacts....”

If it’s not a constant than maybe they will consider that carbon dating can be unreliable.


16 posted on 08/25/2010 9:18:41 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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Captain-the-dilithium-crystals-are-decaying-as-we-approach-that-geomagetic-storm-front ping!


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18 posted on 08/25/2010 9:19:54 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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And exactly what’s dhat doing to the accuracy of the atomic clock?


19 posted on 08/25/2010 9:21:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, the Criminal, is BAD for AMERICA.)
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To: decimon
if true this sux for all the stuff we dated.

as i was saying in another thread, trying to comprehend and master deep time (or even real time) is a useless pursuit.

we did not know this yesterday, what may we know tomorrow.

what does it matter anyhow?

intellect is better spent on useful pursuits. anyone who pays a person to mess with a decaying proton should go to africa and watch the children of savages die from diarrhea or malaria. they dont expire faster than those particles, and it is in no way more elegant.

at least studying atomic decay rates keeps your suit clean and allows the arrogance of pretend intellect.

20 posted on 08/25/2010 9:23:24 AM PDT by mmercier (mysterious ways)
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To: decimon

Facinating!


21 posted on 08/25/2010 9:24:18 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: decimon

Maybe it’s gravitational waves.


23 posted on 08/25/2010 9:34:53 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: decimon
the rate dropped slightly during the flare, a decrease that started about a day and a half before the flare.

Shades of "The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline." (See Asimov).

28 posted on 08/25/2010 9:46:37 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (I donÂ’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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If decay rates are not constant and can be changed by external influences then the dating methods based upon them are also suspect over very long periods of time.


29 posted on 08/25/2010 9:54:20 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Manganotimoline will signal an impending solar flare?

Why not; thiotimoline signals impending dissolution in water.

Question for further study: if the decay rates drops, does the sun flare to bring it back to the normal rate, i.e. does the decrease cause the flare?

More serious question: do prolonged periods of increased or decreased solar activity affect decay rates of elements used for dating purposes; and if so, is a significant amount? Would it average out over time, or would it be biased in one direction?

Will this finding increase or decrease Crevo argumentation? ;-)

34 posted on 08/25/2010 10:04:28 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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Thanks decimon and ApplegateRanch! I didn't have the heart to look through the thread for some nutty misconceptions about radiocarbon dating.

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47 posted on 08/25/2010 3:19:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: decimon
[noticed that the rate dropped slightly during the flare, ]
 
Interesting. 
 
But is the effect upon decay rate  caused by solar flares - OR - is there a common, unknown, condition which is conducive to increasing solar flares and decreasing decay rates?

54 posted on 08/25/2010 4:07:47 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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[The decay rate was ever so slightly faster in winter than in summer.]

Is this true in both hemispheres?


55 posted on 08/25/2010 4:23:41 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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