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To: hal ogen

Haitians have a heritage of slavery and dependency. Unlike New Zealanders, it was not their ancestors’ decision to emigrate. Their cultures are different for historical reasons and the difference is an illustration of the lasting effects of cruelty and injustice.


7 posted on 09/06/2010 5:13:58 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Unlike New Zealanders, it was not their ancestors’ decision to emigrate.

Question: how many of the early New Zealand English settlers were convicts (really just guilty of minor crimes when Mother England decided to clear out her underclass) sentenced to transport, and therefore had no say in their decision to emigrate? I know a good portion of Australian's were (including the branch of my family that ended up there).
8 posted on 09/06/2010 5:20:51 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: wideawake
that's a pretty racist observation there about Haitians. Basically saying they CAN'T help it ...so why try?

So the Jews Moses led out of Egypt really shouldn’t have gone for that independence stuff? That generations of slavery and dependence had so perverted their decision-making capability that culturally they were doomed to dependency and the consequences of poor decision-making?

9 posted on 09/06/2010 5:25:21 AM PDT by mo
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To: wideawake
***Haitians have a heritage of slavery and dependency.***

Worse than that, they have a heritage of satan worship in the form of voodoo.

As you worship, you become more like the thing you worship.

11 posted on 09/06/2010 5:37:20 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: wideawake

You left off the French part.

France + Africa = 0


13 posted on 09/06/2010 5:43:15 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: wideawake

It’s a mystery. What makes one culture succeed and the other one sit by the road with its hand out?

It’s not the history of being treated cruelly - otherwise the Jews would be a loser culture like Haiti. Which they are not.

One thing that certainly doesn’t help is ‘Aid’. Being supplied free rice by America (at the behest of the American Left) essentially destroyed Haitian farmers. No people, however self-reliant, can compete with free food.

In contrast, the folks in NZ and Australia had to do everything for themselves. So they did.


15 posted on 09/06/2010 5:54:22 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: wideawake

So. Probably all of us have “a heritage of slavery and dependency” somewhere in our extended backgrounds. So what? Hey...Haitians, get off your asses and get to work fixing your country, your families, your system and so forth. No one is going to do it for you, you laggards.


28 posted on 09/06/2010 6:59:27 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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