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To: TruthHound

As far as the Byzantines were concerned, the Roman Empire didn’t “fall” in 476. It moved to Constantinople and chugged along for another 800 years or so. Then it was overrun by an Islamic horde.


3 posted on 09/18/2010 10:55:13 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial President. EVER.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

As far as the Byzantines were concerned, the Roman Empire didn’t “fall” in 476. It moved to Constantinople and chugged along for another 800 years or so. Then it was overrun by an Islamic horde.

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And transferred to Moscow, the “Third Rome”. According to the Russians. For good or ill, Roman Imperium DNA is found throughout western civilization, if not the world at this point.


4 posted on 09/18/2010 11:09:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP - trust, but verify.)
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To: narses; neverdem; steelyourfaith; Question Liberal Authority

Well, for what it’s worth, the Germanic tribes that invaded Rome in 400-500 AD were driven south by the CRUSHING cold weather of the Dark Ages (that followed the much warmer Roman Warming Period of 100 BC - 300 AD !) ...

Things were bad in Europe (everywhere in the world) from mid-600’s up until the Medieval Warming Period about 800 years later of 1000 - 1200 AD.

Gosh.

Then we tumbled (all long before CO2) into the Little Ice Age of 1600 - 2700 AD. Notice that Cornelius Vanderbilt of the mid-1800’s industrial revolution and transportation tycoons made his first money rowing a man-powered ferry across the ICE_BOUND Hudson River to New York in the early 1800’s !!.

Figure we’ve warmed up some from Washington and Vanderbilt’s time in the 1790-1800’s?

Now? we are 400 years later, in the Modern Warming Period. Right on schedule: early 2000 - 2010.

Only question is: Is this the peak - before we slide back again into a Future Ice Age in 2400? Or we will get one more peak in the 60-year short cycle and see higher temperatures in 2060 - 2070?


5 posted on 09/18/2010 11:19:54 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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