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Bill Jamison says:

December 20, 2010 at 12:54 am

Well we’re having a cold FALL, winter is yet to be determined! Thanks for the update, I was wondering when we’d see a new “prediction” from NASA updating their incorrect one. So far David Archibald’s predictions have been MUCH more accurate than almost everyone else’s. Pretty impressive so far but the jury is still out and it will be many years before we know for sure that he really nailed it.

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vukcevic says:

December 20, 2010 at 1:41 am

Dalton minimum winters (according to CETs) were not too bad. There was occasionally colder one, last winter was on par or even worse then those of 1805 -1810.
Detailed seasons CETs 1659-2010 (reference 1950) available here:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/CET-D.htm

[PapaBear3625]

Speaking of NASA, they've been updating their model predictions over the last few months, reducing the estimated peak of the new cycle. Here's the graph with the November Data:

The current estimated peak is in the range of the Dalton Minimum, and the last three months of sunspot data have been trending down, which means that they may adjust it down even further.

I'm hoping that Watt is wrong. Global Warming means that some people lose their Malibu beach houses. Global Cooling means widespread crop failures, global famine, and civil unrest.