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No words can express the sense of utter ridicule I have for these kooks. There seems nothing is too bogus, too shameless, too contemptuous for these Gore-inspired moonbats to try pulling over on us,

My only question is:What will you do when your tree-ring world-cataclysm-prognosticator is found to be as much of a desperate hoax as global warming is? What will you do? What will you do?

1 posted on 01/16/2011 9:20:00 AM PST by lbryce
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Relentless Pursuit of the Fraud !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 01/16/2011 9:22:18 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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When has the Earth’s climate ever NOT CHANGED?????.....


3 posted on 01/16/2011 9:23:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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4 posted on 01/16/2011 9:25:03 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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I think you are misdirecting your ire here. There is a lot of documented science regarding climate change and the decline of civilizations, such as the Maya, the Anasazi and the Roman Empire. And the Little Ice Age let to widespread human misery in Europe less than 1,000 years ago - after the relative prosperity of the Medival Warm Period (yep, warming is usually GOOD).

The problem comes when the AGW crowd ignores or tries to pretend that past natural climatic shifts never happened, as they try to label modern climate shifts as human-caused (and the infamous hockey-stick graph is a prime example of that).

5 posted on 01/16/2011 9:26:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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I don’t have a problem ascribing changes in human fortune to changes in the climate. Certainly the times when the climate is warm fosters agriculture, prosperity, and therefore peace: people don’t go to war when they have full bellies and burgeoning farms. The problem arises when they confuse cause and effect, imagining that we humans are causing the climate change that affects our lives. Clearly humans did not cause any climate change that took place thousands of years ago. The climate changes, and will always do so, for reasons entirely unrelated to human activity.


7 posted on 01/16/2011 9:29:04 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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Makes perfect sense, unless you know anything about Roman history and 400+ years of decline, resurgence, etc.

Also that a severe winter allowed a significant germanic settlement across frozen rivers into Roman territory.

Certainly illegal immigration played an enormous role in Roman history.


9 posted on 01/16/2011 9:30:31 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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You're missing the point: climate change which WAS NOT brought on by human carbon emissions, but instead was natural change in the earth.

During the time of the Roman Empire, North Africa and Egypt were vast grain producing regions. The drying up of North Africa and reduction in grain production contributed to the fall of Rome.

12 posted on 01/16/2011 9:31:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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Roman SUVs...
16 posted on 01/16/2011 9:36:08 AM PST by alecqss
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But according to their vaunted "hockey stick chart" the climate hasn`t changed till now, you can`t have it both ways and say with any credibility you`re a scientist.
18 posted on 01/16/2011 9:37:01 AM PST by nomad
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So what do the tree rings say about the seizure of the Roman Republic by the Julio-Claudian dictatorship?

BTW, just in case it's slipped someone's mind: Caligula was the THIRD Roman Emperor. He succeeded Tiberius, who was a monster himself. That's how fast totalitarianism degenerated into a hellhole.

Oh! And in case there's anyone who thinks it couldn't happen here, make no mistake: There are countless psychopaths and other monsters out there just salivating over the prospects of seizing control of the greatest, richest, most powerful nation the world has ever known!

20 posted on 01/16/2011 9:38:46 AM PST by Savage Beast (Leftists are everything that they claim to despise.)
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When was any of the Climate Change that changed history caused by human activity?

And who is to say that the coming climate change (whatever it is) is going to be a bad thing?

Maybe it will lead to the downfall of communism.


21 posted on 01/16/2011 9:40:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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“...Looking back on 2,500 years there are examples where climate change impacted human history...”
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Burn in hell, you blasphemer!
Our Gore-god teaches us just the opposite - humans effect the climate.


22 posted on 01/16/2011 9:40:08 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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The Fall of the Roman Empire was caused

by the sudden expansion of gardening across Europe

for ingredients for Caesar Salads,

which led to massive deforestation and

sudden expansion of the Roman Army,

which led to massive deflowerings all across Europe,

caused by Roman hands and gropal warmings

23 posted on 01/16/2011 9:41:49 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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No words can express the sense of utter ridicule I have for these kooks. There seems nothing is too bogus, too shameless, too contemptuous for these Gore-inspired moonbats to try pulling over on us...

Something is missing here. There is no explanation of exactly what it was that the Romans were doing to bring about climate change and, thus, their own demise.

Did the baths pollute the Mediterranean?

Was it all that salt sowed at Carthage?

Was it all the lion poop disposed of in the dump behind the Coliseum?

What was it, dammit? We need to know, so that we can save ourselves?

26 posted on 01/16/2011 9:45:11 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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Professor Mike Baillie is not a kook. He has done some excellent work with dendrochronology (tree rings)

Exodus To Arthur

Professor Mike Baillie is an expert in the field of dendrochronology, that is, tree-ring dating, at Queen's University, Belfast. Over the past 100 years, scientists across the globe have been reconstructing a global chronology of tree growth going back 10,000 years. Because tree growth varies from year to year based on environmental conditions, it is possible to study the chronologies to build up a picture of the climate that existed when these trees were alive. Using this method, scholars have identified evidence of alarming environmental events in the past, affecting the entire planet, with profound consequences for the human groups living at those times.

The Dark Ages : Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

27 posted on 01/16/2011 9:45:45 AM PST by blam
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BBC:Roman Rise, Fall 'Recorded in Trees' (Climate Change Led to Fall of Empire) BARF-A-GANZA!

Branches ? Branches?!!

We ain`t got no strinkin branches!!

We don` need no stinkin` branches!!

28 posted on 01/16/2011 9:46:02 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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How much were the Romans paying for gas before their empire collapsed? Enquiring minds want to know...


30 posted on 01/16/2011 9:49:34 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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34 posted on 01/16/2011 9:57:19 AM PST by Allegra (You're a towel.)
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Caligula’s hoopty be a fly Escalade..


35 posted on 01/16/2011 9:58:33 AM PST by IamConservative (Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day. - Truman)
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IMO, while this report is probably linked to the bogus AGW agenda, I’d heard about this possibility of weather-induced crop failure precipitating the fall of the Roman Empire long before that AGW agenda got going.


36 posted on 01/16/2011 10:00:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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