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1 posted on 01/29/2011 6:52:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 01/29/2011 6:53:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Thanx Ernest !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 01/29/2011 6:55:00 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It is amazing how SUVs effected the weather 3000 years ago.
4 posted on 01/29/2011 6:58:01 AM PST by mountainlion (The government is not my god no matter how much they preach.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
En zo, the past as revealed by detailed anal-ysis of the midges at the bottom of Moose Lake.

Hey, Sarah, come here willya'~ did you see what these guys did?

5 posted on 01/29/2011 7:03:51 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We who believe the Scriptures know that the earth was warm before the Noahidic flood worldwide and how the Lord God of Israel changed the post flood world into the four seasons we have now. Note verse 22 “While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease”

Genesis 8:

1 And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged ; 2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped , and the rain from heaven was restrained ; 3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually : and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated . 4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. 5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen . 6 And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made : 7 And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro , until the waters were dried up from off the earth. 8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; 9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her , and pulled her in unto him into the ark. 10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11 And the dove came in to him in the evening ; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more. 13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked , and, behold, the face of the ground was dry . 14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried . 15 And God spake unto Noah, saying , 16 Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons’ wives with thee. 17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful , and multiply upon the earth. 18 And Noah went forth , and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him: 19 Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark. 20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done . 22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease


6 posted on 01/29/2011 7:09:25 AM PST by kindred (Come Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's Sarah Palin's fault. I have proof. Here she is at her weather time machine. Nefarious!
8 posted on 01/29/2011 7:17:17 AM PST by mirkwood (Palin-Bachmann 2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Appears to be a 1k-year sunspot pulse wave -

A solar clock and thermostat

9 posted on 01/29/2011 7:20:45 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It has seemed to me that there must have been dramatic warming in tundra areas all over the northern hemisphere followed by an abrupt chill. Otherwise how could it be that mammoths that are found complete with all soft tissue and stomach contents preserved sunken into the tundra?


11 posted on 01/29/2011 8:01:45 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s not cars at all, it’a animals, 2 legged and 4 legged that are farting that caused globla warming!


14 posted on 01/29/2011 8:13:55 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This study illustrates what often appears in scientific journals. It is a serious study of limited scope that presents data and findings in a unbiased fashion. The study shows that during the recent Quaternary period, temperatures at Moose Lake have risen and fallen in general correlation with recognized climate changes.

Once the popular science press (read: global warming cultists) gets their hands on this paper, they will report it to represent clear and undeniable evidence of anthropogenic global warming. Evil mankind is causing the temperatures at Moose Lake to skyrocket. All nonsense, of course, but these people are on a political crusade to destroy free market based capitalism and replace it with big government socialism. Deception and hyperbole in support of their one world vision is not only permitted, but encouraged.


17 posted on 01/29/2011 9:40:57 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Definitely, Bush/Cheney’s and Free Republic’s fault.


18 posted on 01/29/2011 10:26:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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Someone ought to show NASA’s Hansen this article in counter to his “global warming BS”


19 posted on 01/29/2011 10:45:01 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Crime in progress!

24 posted on 02/02/2011 1:21:43 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I would like to contribute some brief comments to this thread:

(1) With respect to the value of the Moose Lake record for assessing global warming:

As the name implies, global warming refers to an increase in the heat budget of the entire planet; the global heat budget is affected primarily by radiative controls, including (but not limited to) solar activity and orbital variations that alter how much energy Earth receives, and albedo and greenhouse gas concentration changes that alter rates of energy loss to space. Changes to the global heat budget can only be assessed by hemispheric or ideally global composites of temperature time series. The original Mann et al. publication was a pioneering example of this; additional global composite records have since become available.

Local atmospheric conditions are by far the most important controls on temperature trends at an individual site. Recent mean annual temperature rises in Alaska for instance have been attributed to changes in an atmospheric mode known as the North Pacific Index (NPI), for example. Better-known examples in other regions of the globe are the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). However, changes to the globe’s heat budget can significantly alter the frequency or amplitude of these atmospheric circulation patterns.

Recent warming in Alaska, while occurring throughout all months, is dominated by warming in the winter months. Winter is also the season with the strongest atmospheric patterns in each hemisphere due to the intense heat gradient between the tropics and the polar winter. Summer temperatures in Alaska are predominantly governed by cloud radiative forcing today. Comparing modern warming estimates of mean annual temperature (especially when referring to global trends) with the midge data which only capture mid-summer conditions is a bit like comparing apples and oranges.

As a side-note: The fact that warming predominately occurs in winter in Alaska is not trivial at these high latitudes, as winter conditions play a large role in influencing permafrost temperatures in summer, and hence can play a role in the development of a thermokarst landscape with potential positive greenhouse gas feedbacks.

(2) A comment on paleotemperature inferences:

Measuring prehistoric temperatures is crucial to gain a context for recent changes, and also to identify natural variations and perhaps even drivers of natural climate variations that play a role on longer timescales. However, it is a bit like measuring with a noisy thermometer. In this case, midge species differ in their temperature preferences, and multivariate analyses show that summer temperature is one of the dominant factors that explains the geographic distribution of different species of midge larvae. These relationships can be used to get an estimate of the average summer temperature at the time a sediment interval was deposited by identifying its larval midge remains. As might be expected, the precision of that estimate is far lower than reading a temperature value from a thermometer. Additionally, midges are biological organisms that respond to other environmental controls. Water depth, pH, cation concentrations, and nutrient status of lakes are a few examples. A good comparison with instrumental data is an encouraging sign that midges at a particular site are reliable indicators of temperature; other, multivariate techniques can also be used to try to identify periods during which the midge assemblages may have been affected by environmental factors other than summer temperature. However, it is important to keep this caveat in mind – it is one of the principle reasons why replication of such studies is crucial. The second paragraph of the paper’s section 4.4 deals with such a possible caveat. The shift to on average higher temperatures between 4000 and 5000 years ago could have been influenced by low lake levels that were indicated by other lines of evidence. Other factors may have contributed during other periods but left no sign in the sediment. The more records that become available in the same region that point to shared temporal trends, the higher the confidence that the patterns represent regional controls including temperature, rather than lake or watershed-limited controls, such as changes to the pH or cation composition of the lake’s water.

25 posted on 02/20/2011 7:52:17 PM PST by white_blue_n_red
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