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To: ROTB; ScoutLaw
ScoutLaw: "Evolution is an observed fact"

ROTB: "Micro-evolution (birds turning into different birds that don’t interbreed), yes.

"Macro-evolution (lizards turning into birds), no."

In effect, there is no micro- or macro- evolution.
There are only evolution facts (confirmed observations), evolution theory (confirmed hypotheses) and evolution hypotheses (insufficiently confirmed to be upgraded from "hypothesis" to "theory" -- these are also known as "informed speculations").

Of these three hypotheses, the most scientific work has gone into investigating how abiogenisis might have happened.
The other hypotheses are not, so far, testable.

ROTB: "Genesis and evolution contradict each other..."

Genesis never was and never will be a scientific document.
It's purpose is not to explain the Universe scientifically, but to help explain to very ignorant human beings how they can achieve salvation.

Evolution science never was and never will be a religious exercise, since science is the opposite of religion -- where religion is entirely concerned with the spiritual, science only deals with material causes and effects.

20 posted on 09/01/2011 10:55:06 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

BroJoe wrote: “Unconfirmed ... Intelligent Design”

Actually, God has demonstrated his singular ability to generate time reversals in the Bible, a feat which modern physics is baffled to reproduce or explain. See http://xwalk.ca/y3nf.html for the details.

BroJoe wrote: “The evolution theory (confirmed hypothesis) simply projects these facts backwards in time...”

Until you can explain the time reversals in the Bible (no other book, not even the Koran/Qur’an does this) apart from God existing, evolution is simply confusion taught as fact.

It then goes without saying that Genesis is history, and it makes claims about what happened in the past. Though the Bible could be defined as a spiritual book about the history of God’s people, the few naturalistic and scientific claims it makes do stand up to scrutiny.

BroJoeL wrote: “Evolution science never was and never will be a religious exercise”

Evolution by itself is a pillar in the religion of atheism. It is a “creation account” for atheists, the same way that Genesis is a creation account for Jews and Christians. Read the full details of why atheism is a religion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godless:_The_Church_of_Liberalism#Central_thesis.

BroJoeK wrote: “where religion is entirely concerned with the spiritual”

The times I got jobs, and changed circumstances as a result of prayer, was that ALL spiritual, or did the spiritual manifest in the natural result because an uncaused, changeless, timeless Being answered my prayer?

Tell


21 posted on 09/01/2011 2:27:53 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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