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Canadian Prime Minister, Frustrated with Obama’s Dithering, Will Travel to China to Seek Asian Mkts
The Ledger via Hotair via C4P ^ | 1-15-2012 | Doug Brady

Posted on 01/15/2012 4:46:32 PM PST by ak267

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To: Former Proud Canadian
I'm not crowing about anything.
Sure you are. You're obviously giddy that Harper is putting Canada first whilst giving the US the middle finger and going elsewhere to sell the oil even if it is to China. If I'm wrong then you might want to correct the opinion I've formed 'cause that's how I read things judging from your replies.

This project is going nowhere.
Throwing in some condescending certitude as well?
You're not even willing to wait the month between now and the proposed China pitch to see what Congress does next.

He is weakening your country at every turn.
Tell me something I don't know!

81 posted on 01/18/2012 9:56:01 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
You're obviously giddy that Harper is putting Canada first

I'm happy that Harper is doing the job he was elected to do and furthering Canadian economic interests. You should get a president that does the same for your country and BOTH countries would be better off.

(giddy that Harper is..)giving the US the middle finger

Nope, not in the least. Your chief executive has decided that he doesn't want the pipeline or the oil. His "energy policy" is higher energy prices through reduced supply. Cancelling the pipeline has the added benefit, for him, of weakening the US and making China stronger. I should be happy about this? What part of this don't you get? And aren't you a little defensive on this?

This project is going absolutely nowhere as long as Obama is president. It is dead until the election and there is no guarantee it will go forward after the election. In fact, TransCanada has been told to re-apply for a permit. That's another three years. Why wait another month to get the "final, double secret, turndown"? TransCanada cannot afford to sit around and wait to see who wins the next election.

As you probably know, TransCanada is not building this pipeline on spec. They have contracts with shippers in hand. The uncertainty caused by Obama is going to lead those shippers to look at alternatives. No shippers, no pipeline.

When the girl you are dating keeps stalling you and saying no, even though you would love to lay that pipe, sometimes you take no for an answer and seek out another girl.

82 posted on 01/19/2012 4:58:35 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: philman_36
Try this.

PM Harper is a very smart, astute politician. Imagine retaining power for several years in a legislature where the majority of members share Obama's views. Harper did just that. He plays politics very well.

Foreign intervention is US politics, especially presidential politics tends to be counter productive at best. Harper know this. However, I'm sure he would love to see Obama gone. What better way to help him out the door than to hand the republicans an issue like this? His hands are clean, he is doing his job, and he has put Obama in a corner. Everybody wins.

83 posted on 01/19/2012 5:48:32 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: philman_36
You should take a look at this:

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/01/video-canadian-talk-show-host-destroys-obama-over-keystone-decision.html

84 posted on 01/20/2012 4:39:15 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I've got your position. You've stated it numerous times.
Obama sucks and is a liar and Canada wants their due respect.
There is no need for you to keep pushing it, Ezra, or whomever you are.
85 posted on 01/21/2012 1:34:35 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

No harm, no foul. We both have our own nation’s best interest at heart.


86 posted on 01/21/2012 7:11:59 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Why should we sell to only one country? Makes sense to put your eggs in more than one basket, right?


87 posted on 02/13/2012 3:58:40 PM PST by oldweesie
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Why should we sell to only one country?
It's funny how you've misrepresented my position. I've never said that Canada should only sell anything to only one country.

I want Canada to send its oil, which has to be processed to be of any use, through the Keystone XL pipeline to American refineries, not to China.

Makes sense to put your eggs in more than one basket, right?
Well, no. You've got one hand for gathering the eggs and one hand for holding the basket. You can't carry more than one basket in your hand, can you? And even if you did carry more than one basket you stand more of a chance to lose the whole lot from trying to carry more than you can handle.

A different idiom might better illustrate what you're trying to say.

88 posted on 02/13/2012 4:44:30 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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