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Tau Ceti's planets nearest around single, Sun-like star
BBC ^ | 19 December 2012 Last updated at 00:32 ET | Staff

Posted on 12/19/2012 6:30:24 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Those familiar with the star map developed by Marjorie Fish based upon information from the Barney and Betty Hill UFO abduction case, will recall that Tau Ceti was identified as one of the stars on that map.


21 posted on 12/19/2012 1:15:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: GonzoGOP

When we do it...that is how we are going to do it.


22 posted on 12/19/2012 1:18:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
When we do it...that is how we are going to do it.

It is either slow boat to the stars or wait for someone to figure out how to build an Alcubierre drive. The slow boat uses only things we know how to do and physics we understand. The Alcubierre drive requires physics that exist only on a black board (or more likely a super computer) and technology we can't even describe much less build.

A 747 is 100 times faster than a sailing ship. However if in 1492 you had waited for 747s to colonize the new world you would have arrived 460 years late to the party.
23 posted on 12/19/2012 1:48:19 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; ELS; ToxicMich; paintriot; Cronos; A_perfect_lady; Art in Idaho; perplyone; ...
Something that I already knew... Now we have to figure out the FTL thing then I'm leaving this frakin rock..


24 posted on 12/19/2012 5:23:34 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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Something that I already knew... Now we have to figure out the FTL thing then I'm leaving this frakin rock..


25 posted on 12/19/2012 5:24:27 PM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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Space travel, as we now conceive it, is impossible.

In order to travel to the stars, we must think of space as space-time.

Crossing huge distances of space requires enormous amounts of energy, supplies and most critical of all - time.

To cross space in a timely fashion, pun intended, you must exit your starting point’s space-time and enter at your destination’s space-time.

Einstien says it is possible, all we have to do is figure out how.

Manipulation of the basic forces should give us the power to jump across space as easily as a frog jumps across a puddle of water.

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26 posted on 12/19/2012 6:30:38 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: staytrue

Vaquero did (’:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2970304/posts?page=5#5


27 posted on 12/19/2012 7:01:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Red Badger, and thanks KD for the additional ping. '"Tau," said he,' ping.
 
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28 posted on 12/19/2012 7:06:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The problem of deceleration exists also for the beamed energy craft, so it’ll probably be built and used to send probes to nearby stars. By the time it reaches those stars, people not yet born probably will have developed something better, like the stuff currently in use by various ETs.


29 posted on 12/19/2012 7:15:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Even project Deadelus didn’t call for deceleration. That called for a flyby of either Barnard’s star or Alpha Centauri.


30 posted on 12/19/2012 7:27:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: KevinDavis

If you find a way off this rock, will you need a window washer? :p


31 posted on 12/19/2012 8:51:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Red Badger
...power to jump across space as easily as a frog jumps across a puddle of water.

It would seem that such a traveler would have to effect the expansion rates of the entire universe both going and comming, which seems to net out alright, but how to initiate that in either direction, or frame....

I dont think we'll ever be able to do it. And if there are any ETs out there, which seems very possible, I doubt they can do it either. I suspect we'll just have to keep listening.

32 posted on 12/19/2012 9:05:52 PM PST by onedoug
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...like the stuff currently in use by various ETs.

You're kidding, right?

33 posted on 12/19/2012 9:09:21 PM PST by onedoug
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Part of the problem is everything is moving at great velocity in many directions simultaneously.

The Earth is spinning on its axis, revolving around the Sun, the Solar System is moving in a circular orbit around the Milky Way galaxy while also moving in a sinusoidal manner above and below the galactic plane, and the whole galaxy is moving away from all the others at a huge rate.

Exiting the space-time at your starting point isnt nearly as big a problem as entering the space-time at or near your destination. You might wind up in free space, inside a rocky asteroid or the corona of the nearest star. Two of those choices are not optimum for a return trip.

A series of short hops would most likely be the safest method to allow you to get your bearings correct for the next jump and avoid being vaporized by a nuclear furnace.

Remember, gravity is a depression in the fabric of space-time. The larger the mass, the greater the depression, or ‘gravity well’. So you would want to make sure your jumps were well away from any large masses. Imagine materializing in the upper atmosphere of the planet you want to explore, only to burn up like a meteor as you plunge through the sky at thousands of miles per hour. You want to come into the system out near its outer edges, like Pluto, then use conventional methods to ‘fall in’ toward the inner planets.

Of course accidents of chance, like materializing in front of an undetectable cometary body might ruin your whole day..........


34 posted on 12/19/2012 9:36:36 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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