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To: WhiskeyX

My mentioning a supereruption is based on what the (fictional) Thera eruption in 2nd m BC is generally called now, and obviously wasn’t a straw man.

> The catastrophic eruption occurred at about 1613 B.C.E. +/- 13 years, according to a variety of lines of evidence ranging from radiocarbon dating to archealogical comparisons.

No, in fact, there are none.

The stages of burial of Akrotiri shows that the eruption wasn’t catastrophic, except of course for the inhabitants of the island.

The caldera, including the opening into the sea, is prehistoric by 10s of 1000s of years.

The 19th century claim began the Thera-ended-Minoan-civilization meme, so yes, that is what is being discussed.

There’s no distant ashfall from Thera, other than tiny traces in (as mentioned before) Crete and Anatolia. Other supposed evidence such as the pumice carved into a serving tray for a pharaoh during the New Kingdom in Egypt was saddled on for years as evidence for the fictional supereruption. When it was finally analyzed, it turned out to be from the volcano of Kos, 100s of 1000s of years ago. At that point, the architect of the 17th c BC higher dating of the eruption suddenly denied that the pumice tray was important.

There’s zero evidence of a tsunami on Crete. Remains of a 3000 year old building near the seashore was, surprise surprise, in bad condition. Again, zero evidence of a tsunami.

The Egyptians mentioned the Sea People; clearly they are not northern European or anything else particularly. The Egyptians gave enigmatic names that fit well enough when the events are moved to their correct century and the people who were around at that time.

Your rationalization for the centuries gap between the (fictional) Theran supereruption and the Sea People makes no sense at all — if a volcanic eruption was so devastating, the time to strike was immediately, not centuries later when major players had many generations to recover. It’s a ridiculous picture you paint, a group lurking just outside a cloud of ash, biding their time and sharpening their weapons for four, five, or six centuries, or more. This probably explains your missing the point about the significance of the Linear B — there was no dark age, there was no massive Sea People invasion.

Somehow the Sea People managed to be recorded in just one place — Egypt — and left no distinctive burials, no distinctive weapons, no pottery, no *shipwrecks*, no sign of any inscriptions, no settlements, no cities, no towns, no homeland, quite an achievement. THAT is the way the Sea People are portrayed, and it makes no sense.


14 posted on 02/16/2013 12:55:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

What you have written about denying the eruption of Thera and your claimed non-existence of the Sea People is sheer nonsense. So, for the benefit of the other readers the following links will provide some interesting reading and illustrations. You can go ahead and wallow in the ignorance of your fantasy world.

Santorini Eruption Radiocarbon Dated to 1627-1600 B.C.
by Walter L. Friedrich, Bernd Kromer, Michael Friedrich, Jan Heinemeier, Tom Pfeiffer, and Sahra Talamo
Science, 28 April 2006: 548 Abstract Full Text PDF Supporting Online Material
http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/santorini/minoan_eruption/1613bc_olive-tree-date.html

Thera Expedition. The Minoan Eruption.
http://www.uri.edu/endeavor/thera/eruption.html

Reconstructing A Catastrophe: The Minoan Eruption Of Santorini
By Gareth Fabbro | July 1st 2011 04:29 PM | 14
http://www.science20.com/tuff_guy/reconstructing_catastrophe_minoan_eruption_santorini-80529#comments


15 posted on 02/16/2013 2:19:14 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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