Finding ET in the Data (Hunt for Dyson spheres heats up)

Centauri Dreams ^ | 4/17/13 | Paul Gilster

[GraceG]

Wasn’t the Dyson Sphere originally envisioned as a means of hiding from malevolent aliens?

You are thinking of a “fortress world”, where you take a planet like earth surround it with a “shell” that looks like the cratered surface of the moon and pump the air from above the shell into the lower levels to leave it a “lifeless airless surface” which has nano solar cells in the “dust” in the above cratered “surface” while you use artifical lighting below in the livable layer to keep all the plants and animals and oceans comfortable.

While building this around a palent like earth you would broadcast “interstellar propaganda” that would make it seem like you have two factions looking to nuke each other and before you “go silent” you detonate a few thousand nukes to irradiate the new “surface” as an added deterrent.

It basically is a expensive version of living underground to avoid the horde looking to colonize your planet preemtively...

We would only consider this if we were really paranoid about an invasion or if we started receiving boradcasts from another race being taken over by another alien armada or got enough lead time to do such a solution....

Who knows, maybe the first thing intelligent species do is hide themselves once they realize how plentiful life actually is inthe universe....

[GraceG]

Wasn’t the Dyson Sphere originally envisioned as a means of hiding from malevolent aliens?

Dysone Spheres actually “Scream” out to aliens!! Dysone speheres are most visible in the IR range and would actuallybe very easy to detect as they would stick out like a sore thumb in the infared spectrum compared to natural sources of IR.

Which is why SETI is looking for them, because they would be very easy to detect...

[skinkinthegrass]

Larry Niven...Ringworld

[Yollopoliuhqui]

The search for ET is based on a possibly erroneous presumption that planets are formed by disk accretion, a theory taken as sacrosanct dogma by most but not all astronomers. There are many problems with this theory, but its critics get the University of East Anglia treatment by their peers.

There is a contending theory that stars and planets are not formed by gravitational accretion but rather by z-pinch and theta-pinch plasma phenomena within the galactic arms which are in reality plasma Birkland currents. More at www.thunderbolts.info.

Planets supporting life may be exceedingly difficult to come by in spite of the science mafia’s PR machinery hype. ET has little to do with science and everything to do with headlines and project funding. How much money was flushed with the SETI project. Science popularizers like Carl Sagan are nothing more than mouthpieces for big science and their money wheel.

I will bet $1000 that any wisecracks this post develops will be made by people who refuse to visit www.thunderbolts.info and study the data presented there.

[camle]

i would think that any civilization with teh ability to build a dyson sphere, wouldn’t waste the time, energy, or material.

[Pox]

The concept of a Dyson Sphere is very interesting, but I’ve always considered it impractical when you consider the amount of matter that would be involved.

[KC_Lion]

Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign.

Reaper? A label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end, what they chose to call us is irrelevant. We simply... are.

Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident. Your lives are measured in years and decades. You wither and die. We are eternal, the pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.

Confidence born of ignorance. The cycle cannot be broken. The pattern has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance, and at the apex of their glory they are extinguished. The Protheans were not the first. They did not create the Citadel. They did not forge the mass relays. They mere found them - the legacy of my kind. Your civilization is based on the technology of the mass relays. Our technology. By using it, your civilization develops along the paths we desire.

We impose order on the chaos of organic life. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it. My kind transcends your very understanding.

We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our existence. We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure.

We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

Ok... The sun is 1mm times the size of earth. We get the materials for the sphere.....where?

[SunkenCiv]

ooooh, thanks skinkinthegrass! For X-Planets and APoD lists...

[SunkenCiv]

ooooh, thanks skinkinthegrass! For X-Planets and APoD lists...

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[null and void]

*GROAN*!!!

[null and void]

STOP THAT!!! Yer gonna hurt yerself!

[ctdonath2]

My pet theory on advanced alien life is that every civilization must pass thru the same basic sequence of experimentation, culminating with some form of “I wonder what happens if I try this...” and the planet evaporates.

[SunkenCiv]

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http://www.kurzweilai.net/dyson-sphere-hunt-using-kepler-data
http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=25064

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