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To: muawiyah
"Neanderthal tools had handles. That’s exceedingly advanced thinking."

If they were that smart 100,000 years ago, it seems to me like they would have dominated the earth long before the last 6 thousand years and there would be massive evidence of them.

I think the time frame has to be wrong. Extrapolate backwards the population growth of man and it doesn't support a 100,000 year time frame. And certainly not a 100,000 year time frame where man was highly intelligent the whole time.

20 posted on 05/25/2013 8:46:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Sometimes on weekends we'll drive over to Point Lookout and watch the Koreans fish for crabs there at the Coast Guard shoreline. We know some of America's most advanced medical researchers are in that crowd. Yet they are frequently seen using barely neolithic quality equipment, and maybe even a woven reed crab pot ~

Yeah, I can believe folks from 100,000 years back used handles ~ maybe even 250,000 years back ~ or 1.2 million years back ~ and homemade spear points.

22 posted on 05/25/2013 10:03:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DannyTN
Extrapolate backwards the population growth of man and it doesn't support a 100,000 year time frame.

There is no particularly logical reason to posit a constant or even continuous growth rate for the human population.

Even in historical times we know of periods during which the population in various areas stagnated or even declined sharply.

In the course of about a century the human population off the world dropped by about 10% due to Mongol massacres.

China has a repeated cycle over the last 3000 years of one dynasty falling apart,partially due to population reaching its limits with available resources. The resultant chaos often lasted for decades or even a century or two. When the next dynasty finally got control, the population was often 25% to 50% of what it had been under the previous dynasty. Population starts to built in the peace created by the new dynasty... Rinse and repeat.

Population under the Roman Empire was a large multiple of that supported during the Dark Ages.

The human population of the Americas dropped by something liked 85% to 95% during the 1500s as a result of the introduction of Afro-Eurasian diseases.

25 posted on 05/25/2013 1:41:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DannyTN

Steel was first made in Africa over 100,000 years ago. It was repeated in Damascus before the birth of Jesus Christ. Yet, in neither case did wide-scale manufacturing result. That occurred in Europe in the last few decades of the 18th century in Germany, spreading to England then to the U.S.A.

Whether a discovery or invention becomes popularly known and replicated is separate from its initial occurrence.

The Roman Republic had all the theories in place to launch the Industrial Revolution, but it never happened. China invented gunpowder and eyeglasses, but gun manufacturing and optometry never became industries in that nation.

The book, Guns, Germs and Steel, explains why.


28 posted on 05/25/2013 1:59:41 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: DannyTN
One of the ways it is known when people first started wearing clothes comes from studying the genetic diversity of lice. 100-120K years ago is the genetic convergence point for the three species of head, body, and pubic lice.

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36 posted on 05/25/2013 3:56:59 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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