Posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical
Seeing With One’s Own Eyes : Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy by Linda Jordan
The principal aim of an autopsy is to determine the cause of death when the cause of death is equivocal or unknown. It is a “strictly the facts ma’am” kind of procedure.
A Medical Examiner or Coroner simply reports what is “seen with their own eyes” concerning the condition of the body and organs after an autopsy. A review of the deceased’s medical history is also included in their assessment. When all is said and done they offer a professional opinion as to the manner of death based on the physical findings and medical history.
If you have ever read a Coroner’s report you know they are very dry. No ad-libbing or wild guessing, no emotion, just straight reporting and fact based conclusions about the state of the body. Lots of words and phrases like, “anterior thorax”, “usual lobular architecture”, “unremarkable”, “perirenal soft tissue”, “sclerae and conjunctivae”, “intact”, “coronary arteries arise normally”, “well-preserved follicular and trabecular markings”.
That’s why I was concerned by newspaper accounts of the Hawaii Medical Examiner’s reported cause of death for Loretta Fuddy, the former Director of the Hawaii Department of Health. What the medical examiner has released so far is heavy on the perceived emotion of Loretta at the time of her death and speculation about the condition of her heart.
Emotion and speculation are not things the medical examiner could have seen with her own eyes.
Some Background.
You will remember that Loretta Fuddy was the person who released photo copies of Barack Obama’s original, long form Certificate of Live Birth. She did this at Obama’s request and said that she hoped it would put an end to the “numerous inquiries” the Hawaii DOH has received to produce the document. Judith Corley, Obama’s lawyer, says she flew to Hawaii to collect this document.
Obama then posted the purported birth certificate to the White House website on April 27, 2011. It has since been proven to be an abject forgery. It was not a scan of a photo copy of an original document. It was a forged PDF file that never existed in paper form until someone pushed print.
Loretta Fuddy died after a plane crash on December 11, 2013. Just a month and a half prior she had been named in two affidavits filed in U.S. District Court, Western District of Washington. The originator of the affidavits had asked that a Grand Jury be convened to investigate Obama’s forged birth certificate and Fuddy’s role, if any, in its production.
Fuddy and her Deputy Director Keith Yamamoto had traveled to the island of Molokai that day on a work related trip. On their return flight the small plane they were riding in was forced to make an emergency ocean landing, fairly close to shore, after suffering a complete engine failure.
It was a very smooth landing according to the video one passenger captured. All nine passengers, including Loretta, secured their life jackets and calmly disembarked from the plane. In fact there was almost no sound as they exited into the approximately 70 degree water.
Within minutes after the forced landing a small plane flew overhead and survivors knew that help was on the way. Then, inexplicably, Loretta Fuddy suffered an equivocal death. A death of unknown origin.
Problems With The Autopsy: The First Cause Of Death Release.
Loretta was the only fatality, and a high profile one. Autopsies are to be performed as soon after death as possible. Preferably within 24 hours. It was reported that Loretta Fuddy’s autopsy took place two days after her death. Why wait two days? And if the autopsy was completed on December 13th, 2013 why were the results kept private for a month? Details from the autopsy report were not revealed until January 13, 2014. And scant details they were. The Maui Police Department, not the Medical Examiner’s Office, reported that Loretta Fuddy, “suffered a cardiac arrhythmia while floating in the water” and that Fuddy's “irregular heartbeat” was the result of stress brought on by the December 11 crash.
It is not possible to diagnose death by “cardiac arrhythmia”. It is something that can only be measured in a live person and there is no evidence of it after death. If someone had a medical history of cardiac arrhythmia it could be a good guess but a guess none the less.
And therein lies the rub. The Medical Examiners designation of death, cardiac arrhythmia due to stress, is in direct conflict with the known facts.
Loretta’s brother, Lewis P. Fuddy Jr., says that his sister was healthy, that she had no heart problems and that she was not a stressed or fearful person. He said that she was a very calm person and had to be given her job. His personal knowledge of his own sister directly controverts the medical examiner’s conclusion.
Passenger accounts of what transpired during the crash and after directly controverts the medical examiners conclusion.
“Clyde Kawasaki, the pilot, has said Fuddy seemed to be in fine condition while bobbing in the water after everyone left the airplane and waited for rescue crews to show up at the scene.”
'Everyone was real quiet. We hit (the water) and it was all about getting the belts off,' he said, describing how everyone started putting on life jackets and remained on the plane until it seemed to start sinking.'There wasn't panic or anything. It was very orderly,' he said. Phillip Hollstein
“Bobbing in the water, Hollstein noticed the pilot and seven other passengers seemed fine. 'I didn't want to sit out there bobbing, so I figured I'd take a shot at going to the shoreline.' He guesses the swim to the rugged shoreline took an hour and a half. He was surprised to hear later that one of the passengers, Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy, had later died. 'She was doing fine out of the airplane,' Hollstein said”.
The video footage of the actual plane crash directly controverts the medical examiner’s conclusion. Loretta Fuddy was not screaming or crying. No one was. “The 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan's cabin starts to flood after impact - but everyone remains calm and eerily quiet as they leave the sinking craft.” “In the video, the passengers can be seen making their way out calmly.”
There is only one hearsay account that Fuddy needed to “relax” after the crash. KeithYamamoto purportedly told Rev. Patrick Killilea that he had held Loretta’s hand and tried to help her to “relax” but at some point she let go of his hand and was unresponsive.
The Second Cause Of Death Release.
Two months after the Maui Police Department revealed Fuddy’s cause of death the Associated Press (AP) sent out a short article with details straight from their own copy of the autopsy report which they obtained on March 10, 2014. Now, four months after her death, we learn this from newspaper accounts of the AP story.
*‘Autopsy report says Loretta Fuddy was “markedly afraid” after plane crash’.
*‘Details in the autopsy report of Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane's ocean landing revealed how traumatic the ordeal was for her.’
*‘The autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press on Monday said Loretta Fuddy was "markedly afraid" while waiting for help to arrive after the small plane crashed off Molokai on Dec. 11.’
*‘The report says 65-year-old Fuddy was a "rudimentary swimmer" who never swam in the ocean.’
*The autopsy said [Fuddy’s] acute cardiac arrhythmia was due to hyperventilation.
*Official autopsy results for late state health director Loretta Fuddy reveal she was a poor swimmer and never swam in ocean waters.
*According to the report, witnesses saw Fuddy exit the aircraft with her flotation device and [she] was “markedly afraid” while waiting for rescue personnel to arrive. She was pronounced dead after being brought to shore. (This is in direct conflict with first hand witness accounts reported at the time. Remember the pilot and passenger Hollstein both said Fuddy was calm and was doing fine and no witness in any newspaper account of the crash ever said Fuddy was “markedly afraid”. So where did this come from?)
*The [autopsy] report says reported ocean conditions included relatively calm five-foot waves that occasionally splashed over the face of the crash victims as they awaited rescue.
Listen to the words coming out of the medical examiner’s report: Loretta Fuddy was markedly afraid, it was a traumatic ordeal, she was a poor swimmer, she never swam in the ocean, water occasionally splashed over her face while awaiting rescue, ocean conditions included relatively calm five-foot waves. This is an autopsy report? Does this sound like a systematic external and internal examination of a dead body to determine if any abnormalities are present and are the cause of death? Where are the words that actually tell us the condition of her body and health? Why are the emotional, speculative words pushed to the forefront but the technical, factual descriptions are kept hidden? And why is this autopsy report filled with emotion and speculation in the first place?
The AP did not share a copy of the report which was said to be heavily redacted. It is important to note that attorney Orly Taitz made a public records request for the autopsy report on December 18, 2013 and has never received a copy.
Why did the AP get a copy but not Taitz? It is a public record subject to Hawaii’s Unified Information Practices Act Statue 92F. I requested one myself but seriously doubt it will be forthcoming . Is it only released to people who will beat the drum that Loretta’s death was caused by fear & hyperventilation?
A final point. One headline announcing the Maui Police Department’s release of autopsy details (January 13, 2014) said that Loretta’s death had been ruled “accidental”.
As of March 29, 2014 no one knows why the plane’s engine failed. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has yet to determine the cause of the crash so how can the Medical Examiner or the Maui Police Department rule Fuddy’s death “accidental”?
Closing.
The Medical Examiner’s autopsy report guesses at the cause of death for Loretta Fuddy. And sometimes, absent any clues from the body, that’s all you can do. However, I would wager in this case that most Medical Examiners would have gone with, “manner of death undetermined”. But what makes Dr. Harle’s guess most disturbing is the fact that it is in direct conflict with eyewitness accounts of Loretta at the time of the crash and in direct conflict with her own brother’s knowledge of her.
She’s clearly trying to make a square peg fit in to a round hole in spite of the facts.
Review all the documentation I’ve supplied. See it with your own eyes and then ask yourself three questions.
1. Does this autopsy report, what little we’ve seen of it, sound like an autopsy report?
2. Does the “markedly afraid” portrayal of Loretta Fuddy jive with the original eye witness accounts and the video?
3. Is the designation of death, by cardiac arrhythmia due to a fearful, un-calm, hyperventilating demeanor, supported by the description that Lewis Fuddy gives of his sister Loretta?
Read it again and let it sink in.
‘The brother of state Health Director Loretta Fuddy said his sister had no heart problems or pre-existing conditions that would have contributed to her death following a December plane crash off Molokai. "She was a healthy lady," Lewis Fuddy said Monday. "She handled stress every day as director of the state Department of Health. She solved problems under pressure. She was a very calm person." ‘ ."She wasn't an anxious person," he said. "To be head of the Health Department, you have to have some cool nerves."
End Notes
1 having two or more possible meanings: not easily understood or explained 2 Unlike Coroners, Medical Examiners are government-appointed physicians who are certified specialists in forensic pathology. They do not need permission from the next of kin to perform an autopsy. 3 Origin of AUTOPSY: Greek autopsia, the act of seeing with one's own eyes, First Known Use: 1678. 4 Dr. Harle, Medical Examiner of Maui County 221 Mahalani Street, Wailuku HI 96793 (808) 244-9056 | Fax: (808) 242-2443 Maui Memorial Medical Center 5 There is such a thing as a Psychological Autopsy (PA) particularly in cases of suspected suicide where life insurance policies are involved. They include extensive interviews with family, friends and a review of the deceased personal records. Conclusions based on this kind of autopsy are generally not accepted in legal criminal proceedings but have been used in civil cases. They primarily serve to bring closure to the family. A PA is done in addition to the autopsy performed by the Medical Examiner. There is no suggestion that Loretta Fuddy killed herself and no evidence that a PA was performed on her. 6 http://www.mcso.org/PressRelease/ 2012 March 1,21, July 17 7 Ms. Fuddy was named in two affidavits (one public, one sealed) filed in the U.S. District Court, Western District of Washington on October 18, 2013, by Douglas Vogt, citing twenty points of forgery that comprise misprision of treason and misprision of felony. Vogt, with researcher and document expert Paul Irey, investigated the intricacies of the forgery. Mr. Vogt’s affidavit and Ms. Fuddy’s involvement gained national attention when he was interviewed on The Hagmann & Hagmann Report on December 4, 2013, exactly one week to the day before her tragic death on December 11, 2013. http://www.saveamericafoundation.com/2014/01/12/what-are-the-chances-the-mysterious-death-of-loretta-fuddy-by-doug-hagmann/ 8 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/12/hawaii-obama-birth-certificate-fuddy/3996657/ 9 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/plane-crashes-hawaii-killing-health-director-released-obama-birth-cert-article-1.1572282 10 http://pathlabs.ufl.edu/services/autopsy/faq-autopsy http://usaforensics.com/faqs/ 11 http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24439053/breaking-autopsy-for-health-director-fuddy-following-plane-crash-released. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/loretta-fuddy-cause-of-death_n_4592104.html “Fuddy's irregular heartbeat was the result of stress from the Dec. 11 crash… Maui police announced, revealing the findings of an autopsy conducted two days after the crash. The pilot and seven other passengers on the Makani Kai Air flight survived without major injuries. “All the passengers, including Fuddy, safely evacuated the plane and activated life-vests, but according to a newly released autopsy, Fuddy suffered a cardiac arrhythmia while floating in the water, waiting for rescuers.” “Fuddy, 65, was healthy and didn't have any known heart problems, her brother, Lewis Fuddy, said Monday."She wasn't an anxious person," he said. "To be head of the Health Department, you have to have some cool nerves." 12 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/loretta-fuddy-cause-of-death_n_4592104.html 13 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/loretta-fuddy-cause-of-death_n_4592104.html 14 Pathologist factors: Some doctors express dissatisfaction with the quality of an autopsy if the pathologist does not provide answers regarding the case. Unfortunately, an autopsy does not guarantee that the cause of death, for example a heart arrhythmia, will be identified. http://www.medicinenet.com/autopsy/page3.htm#what_is_the_autopsy_report 15 http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/maui-police-release-cause-of-death-for-fuddy/-/8905354/23912372/-/qt081t/-/index.html#ixzz2xITz0qDK 16 Heart trouble led to Fuddy's death But the state health director did not have cardiac or stress problems, her brother says’ By Timothy Hurley POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jan 14, 2014 The brother of state Health Director Loretta Fuddy said his sister had no heart problems or pre-existing conditions that would have contributed to her death following a December plane crash off Molokai. "She was a healthy lady," Lewis Fuddy said Monday. "She handled stress every day as director of the state Department of Health. She solved problems under pressure. She was a very calm person." http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=240050041 17 http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/13/22294162-hawaiian-health-director-died-of-irregular-heartbeat-after-plane-crash?lite 18 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536931/New-footage-shows-harrowing-moment-small-plane-crashed-Hawaii-killed-woman-published-President-Obamas-birth-certificate.html#ixzz2xN5RYmJN 19 http://www.chicagonewsday.com/feed/national/11572-new-footage-shows-the-harrowing-moment-a-small-plane-crashed-off-hawaii-and-killed-the-woman-who-published-president-obama-s-birth-certificate.txt 20 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/plane-crashes-hawaii-killing-health-director-released-obama-birth-cert-article-1.1572282 21 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/plane-crashes-hawaii-killing-health-director-released-obama-birth-cert-article-1.1572282 22 In the final moments of her life, Fuddy clung to the hand of her deputy, Keith Yamamoto, while floating in the water. Fuddy, who became widely known in 2011 for her role in making President Barack Obama’s birth certificate public, held hands with Yamamoto as he tried to help her relax, said the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the ordeal. http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/state-wire/survivor-recounts-plane-crash-killed-fuddy#sthash.KpCCTidu.dpuf 23 Details in the autopsy report of Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane's ocean landing revealed how traumatic the ordeal was for her. The autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press on Monday said Loretta Fuddy was "markedly afraid" while waiting for help to arrive after the small plane crashed off Molokai on Dec. 11. The report says 65-year-old Fuddy was a "rudimentary swimmer" who never swam in the ocean. Maui police have said her death was the result of an irregular heartbeat triggered by stress. The autopsy said the acute cardiac arrhythmia was due to hyperventilation. The pilot and seven other passengers on the Makani Kai Air flight survived without major injuries. Maui County cited privacy laws for redacting significant portions of the report. http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20140310_Autopsy_report_said_health_director_was_markedly_afraid_after_plane_crash 24 http://khon2.com/2014/03/11/autopsy-reveals-fuddys-final-moments-after-crash/ 25 http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-lawyer-files-request-fuddy-autopsy/ 26 Email On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:40 PM, from Linda Jordan to Orly Taitz. I was just curious if they gave you a copy of the autopsy like they did the AP? And if they did not, why not? You did request one right? LJ they did not provide me with any answer and right now I do not have the money to file yet another law suit in HI to get it (Orly Taitz) 27 March 26, 2014 TO: Public Records Officer Coroner and Medical Examiner’s Office of Maui County RE: Request for Public Record Autopsy Report for Loretta Jean Fuddy The Associated Press reported on March 12th, 2014 that they had received a copy of the Autopsy Report for Loretta Fuddy conducted by Dr. Harle, Coroner and Medical Examiner for Maui County. I am requesting a copy of the Autopsy Report for Loretta Jean Fuddy aka Loretta Deliana Fuddy under the Unified Information Practices Act Statue 92F. Fuddy’s date of death was reported as December 11, 2013. Date of autopsy reported as December 12 or 13, 2013. I will pay the cost of copies and mailing. Electronic transfer would be acceptable also. Thank you, Linda Jordan Dr. Harle, Coroner and Medical Examiner of Maui County 221 Mahalani Street, Wailuku HI 96793 (808) 244-9056 | Fax: (808) 242-2443 Maui Memorial Medical Center 28 Hyperventilation brought on by panic or fear rarely results in death. 29 http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/maui-police-release-cause-of-death-for-fuddy/-/8905354/23912372/-/qt081t/-/index.html#ixzz2xITz0qDK 30 http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=240050041 31 http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24439053/breaking-autopsy-for-health-director-fuddy-following-plane-crash-released. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/loretta-fuddy-cause-of-death_n_4592104.html
Jim, one of the most attractive features of FreeRepublic is that it offers its readers the opportunity to brainstorm pertinent contemporary issues. As you no doubt intended, those issues include concerns that may reach the highest and most important levels of our nation.
In fact, your tagline: “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!” can be read in our current setting as a battle cry for all Freepers, not just individually but as a nationwide group of patriots. Our nation is currently in a struggle for its soul, and it is today quite valid to think in terms of a tyrannical government.
There has been a lot of pure speculation at the national political level since 2008 and some, perhaps even much of it has come true. One hopes FR will continue to operate as it has, and allow its contributors to explore and exchange ideas however seemingly outlandish or intellectually provocative.
Which is why I prefer to keep the really nutty stuff off FR. Thanks
It seems odd to me that in a person with no history of cardiac problems, they keep hammering on the arrhythmia thing. Lots of people live for a long time with arrhythmia, even untreated, but first off, to determine rhythm in a heartbeat, you have to have one.
I don't see how that could be determined from stopped heart.
But arrhythmia (like tachycardia or bradycardia) can be induced.
The first thing that came to mind were the butyl/amyl nitrate drugs, liquid form, inhaled, sudden and strong effect on cardiac function, and I question whether there would be enough left to do a tox screen on (especially after a couple of days.
Then there is the old prussic acid standby, which also does not show in autopsy.
Neither drug would give long for anyone to so much as squawk, both could be administered in the water, and the remainder allowed to sink or drift away.
No evidence, sudden death mimicking heart failure, and a sanitized tale for the tourists. Those on board (with one or two exceptions) need not ever know anything.
Sorry but I have not been following this post. In fact I spend less and less time at FR. That is not to say you should not stick up for the work you have done thus far.
Why would you plan to kill someone in a plane crash, but poison them first? sheesh. You can make the plot as elaborate as you want, but at some point it just becomes silly.
There’s stuff in the video that didn’t get there by accident. I’ve welcomed people giving their theories about what that stuff is and why that stuff is there.
For instance, what appears on the video to be a wave with sunlight shimmering off it turns around at one point and you can see what appears to be the face of a black man in a gray hoodie-type outfit, with a yellow light at the top of the “hood”. I showed that image and asked “What do you see?”
Nobody addressed that, but it is there and it is bizarre. Why was that there?
Ive given my theories and if you think they’re crazy that’s fine. If you can give reasons that my theory is impossible that would be good. And if you can give a theory that better matches all the evidence that would be best. I’d love to hear your theory for why this stuff was out there. That’s why I asked the questions.
As theories are brought forth the evidence in the video and other evidence can be considered to either support or refute that theory - as others are able to use evidence to either support or refute my theories. Because of the set-up of Free Republic, that kind of analysis is made possible here in a way it is not possible in other places. That is the glory of Free Republic and a large part of why it has so many followers and contributors (including myself) making sure it continues to exist. The free exchange of ideas and information allows theories to be fully vetted and stand or fall on their own merit.
Give me a break.
I would first have to hear your reasons for saying there is an alien language displayed in that tree bark. What is your evidence for believing this is not just what we normally think it is?
When you present your evidence than I can address content.
That is an evidence-based epistemology, and that is why I have always, to the best of my ability, presented the evidence that leads me to conclude there’s something strange. Stuff like signs of photoshopping, pixelating videos, stuff like faces/bodies, goggles, masks, cylindrical tubes in the water, discrepancies in the stories, information being known before it could have been known if the story is taken at face value...
We know that ABC pixelated their videos. Why do you think they did it? They refused to let me post a slowed-down youtube video of what they had already posted publicly so it wasn’t a matter of bandwidth, etc.
Why did the news media report at 4:40 that there was one dead, when 37 minutes later the “dead” person was labeled as being in critical condition?
I could go on and on with anomalies that raise legitimate questions - because these are NOT “normal” things like a tree with bark. You could try arguing that it is normal for the news media to know somebody is dead before they are dead. You could show me how that happens every day... Etc. Just as I could show you tree after tree after tree that has bark similar to what is on that tree...
Since the plan was to have her fly to the other island, and that the plane's take off was delayed, maybe the plan was not to have the plane crash, but to arrive at its destination in no shape to take off again, losing power on final or the pre-take off run up.
Given that, poison administered before the flight would have had time to act, the 'distress' would have occurred on dry land, without means (or requiring alternate transport--all time consuming) to get back to better medical care in a timely fashion, leading to Fuddy's demise.
Enter Mr. Murphy (of Murphy's Law), and the take off is delayed, the malfunction occurs over water, which has the same net effect, and Fuddy checks out while in the drink, provided the accounts are even true (there are inconsistencies in the story).
Alternatively, the plane was intentionally disabled in the air, the ditching was intentional, arrhythmia was induced by the administration of either injected or inhaled drugs (the amyl/butyl nitrate) leading to Fuddy's death (which would require a minimum of one accomplice on board, and a very competent pilot who need not have been in on it).
All these are possibilities, not a theory.
What consistently bugs me is that arrhythmia is cited as the cause of death, in someone who had no heart problems. Not myocardial infarction, but arrhythmia. You gotta have a beat to not have rhythm. How could that (and by all means, someone more qualified in cardiology than I am, correct me if I am wrong) arrhythmia be seen in autopsy? Especially if not previously diagnosed?
Sudden cardiac failure? Okay. But arrhythmia?
Or alternatively, Fuddy just checked out, her number was up, hit her breath limit. The fact that she could have been a vital witness, co-conspirator, or otherwise shed light on the very questionable alleged 'fake but true' birth documents of the usurper in the White House possibly leading to the negation of not only his 'executive orders' but a reversal of a host of UnConstitutional strides toward totalitarianism in this country is just a coincidence.
...too many feathers there to not cry fowl!
I’ve looked at the FOG a few times. No DUmpster diving or Kossacking for me anymore. The BS is too thick. There is only anonymity for the Obots anymore. I would like whomever is affiliated with any of those sites to have the guts to admit it.
Well, hold up now.
You have claimed (want links?) right here on this thread that
Free Republic moderators have participated in the mockery and
hijacking and muzzling and locking and title-changing of your thread.
Then Jim says he did it his own self.
You had said that these outrageous things were done by some
rogue moderator who is part of some fogbowl conspiracy and
what was meant to corrupt Free Republic right before our
very eyes, because of corruption and stuff. And infiltration.
So if JIM did it.. does not then the corruption rise to the very TOP
of Free Republic? Is that not itself a huge piece of news?
You should make this public. It is hugh and series.
But the people in the plane did know something was going on. There’s a still shot of Jacob Key - with his watch on his wrist - holding onto an extremely dark-skinned guy with black eyewear just below the water’s surface (the skin of this extra person was so dark that Jacob’s arm looks really light by comparison).
I could show you similar images for the others too - where the passengers from the plane had to be aware of the presence of this other person. For instance, what everybody thinks is the shirt of the guy standing on the plane’s steps is actually the back of the head of a guy who seemed to be looking out for Rosa. He was right behind her. He’s wearing a maroon tearaway t-shirt with a white tag. When you look at the whole sequence you can see him moving about, turning, surfacing and going under again. He’s right there by Rosa.
There’s stuff like that for just about everybody who was a passenger on that plane. I was hoping people would look for themselves at the slowed-down frames and catch this stuff, but I suppose ABC’s pixelation makes it too hard to tell what you’re seeing.
Anyway, it seems evident to me that they all knew something was going on. So whatever they were doing, it very much seems like they did it with the knowledge of everybody there.
OK, Jim, because I don’t want to wrongly accuse anybody of anything, I’ll ask you straight-up: Did you do all the things I mentioned?
Did you gag me in the middle of my first “What Do You See?” thread?
Did you refuse to allow me to post a new thread on new content?
Did you move my blog post to breaking news?
Did you gag at least one of my supporters when the new thread was posted?
Did you change the thread title every half-hour or so?
Did you remove the comments of my supporters in the thread that was finally posted?
Did you lock the thread so the comments of the fogbow “sock puppets” would stand as if they were the entire Freeper response to what I was saying, rather than giving a warning to the commenters and deleting their comments as is the usual custom?
Which of those actions specifically did you do? Was there a moderator involved in any of those actions?
We hardly know this President, which does make it easier with all the oddities that surround the man, the press that refuse to dig/report, for almost any coincidence/occurrence to be suspicious. Unfortunately for the American People, we will never get the REAL story of Barry.
Unfortunately for the American People, we will never get the REAL story of Barry.
I don’t agree; I think the ccp has a lot of info and they will not shut up or give up.
You have supporters?
Do you derive financial support from these supporters?
Is there an infiltration of FR of these "supporters"?
What have these supporters to do with content here on FR?
Can you list these, and their functions?
In this instance the press has done far more than just refuse to dig. In this case they actively edited the Puentes video to hide critical points. They deliberately pixelated the GMA and Nightline videos on their site when they were warned to do so by somebody on my ping list on the same day as I Freepmailed my ping list to ask them to save the video files before they disappeared.
ABC knows what is on those videos, and they edited them and zipped them past everybody so they could say the video debunks those who think the crash was suspicious. They pixelated them to keep anybody from seeing what was actually in the videos - as soon as they found out I was looking at them. And they did it with the help of somebody on Free Republic who is pretending to be a friend to me and to this issue. A mole at Free Republic, working with ABC to hide what’s really on this video.
That’s treachery not only by ABC but also treachery going on here at Free Republic. If the video supported the official story line, nobody would want to hide these videos. ABC and the mole both know this video contains incriminating evidence.
I have people who recognize the value and quality of the evidence I bring forward. In the vernacular: supporters.
But I asked Jim, not you.
I hope so, but will it be in time to save this Country?
Damned if I can remember the blow by blow nitty gritty detail or care. Your two planes because of different window configuration theory was pure grade a nutbattery as is your one-armed bandit in the water and ABC pixelation theories. Sheesh, give it a rest already with the cock-eyed conspiracy theories.
Everyone knows it was Col Mustard in the library with a lead pipe.
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