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1 posted on 05/13/2014 1:43:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv
I've often wondered about this one:

Maybe the big natural activities of those beyond Earth just happens to look exactly as if they are not there. Hanson said it seems rather unlikely, as it would be a “remarkable coincidence” if advanced artificial processes were actually responsible for all the astronomical phenomena we do explain from natural occurrences,- from pulsars to dark matter

2 posted on 05/13/2014 1:44:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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In before the Ancient Aliens memes!


3 posted on 05/13/2014 1:45:10 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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I’d imagine we will eventually run into aliens that have visited many planets and we will find out that they are ardent anti-communists because they found so many extinct civs that became communist right before they went extinct...


4 posted on 05/13/2014 1:50:22 PM PDT by GraceG
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I always thought there should be a multiplying factor to the Drake equation, whose value is 1 or 0. And the factor is if God wanted their to be life elsewhere. 1 if yes, 0 if no.


5 posted on 05/13/2014 1:51:06 PM PDT by wattsgnu
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Maybe there simply aren’t any alien civilizations. I personally don’t doubt there’s life but would prefer that they weren’t intelligent.


8 posted on 05/13/2014 1:52:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Here's a thought...

Let's say intersteller travel is possible, but it requires an energy source that is incredibly powerful and also incredibly unstable.

The number of civilizations that both achieve this technological sophistication and yet don't destroy themselves in the process is very small.
10 posted on 05/13/2014 1:56:36 PM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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Where are the space aliens? Don't worry, they are here!
11 posted on 05/13/2014 1:57:48 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: BenLurkin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLz93g-ux8

Good stuff Maynard.


13 posted on 05/13/2014 1:59:12 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The ET’s saw our politicians and immediately put a quarantine around earth so we can’t contaminate them. That’s your Great Filter.


14 posted on 05/13/2014 2:00:12 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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I’m skeptical on the existence of alien civilizations. Fermi’s Question “where are they?” is compelling. My big laugh is the “contactee.” Here one has a civilization investing their wealth in developing and manufacturing a space ship, training a crew, then embarking on the extremely dangerous journey across interstellar space all to contact Joe Shlunk in a cornfield at 3:00 A.M. Joe Shlunk’s local time.


15 posted on 05/13/2014 2:00:16 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Maybe if half the astrophysics community didn’t take the approach of global warming ‘scientists’ we might have an answer. Instead, they play the same games, politics ect with their papers/journals, backbite each other and do little actual science.

Only recently could the mere IDEA that aliens ‘could’ exist be spoken in public without the entire community coming down on itself.

Lastly, Scientists aren’t as smart as they think they are. 500 years ago they were putting each other in jail for hersey. They only barely grasp the generalities of the big things they can see on a cosmological scale, much less fully understand them. Overall, they are like a kid with his first copy of Guitar World thinking he can play Steve Vai solos after reading the interview.


17 posted on 05/13/2014 2:08:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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The “great filter” is distance. It’s a long way from here to anywhere, our radio traffic (the most distantly traveled part of our civilization, going relatively fast and starting early) has traveled through an insignificant percentage of our galaxy.

Here’s the scale to really get it:
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/3390.html

And of course that’s one way, if somebody near the edge of that heard us recently and sent a reply we’ll find out around 2100. And that’s with all kinds of assumptions about them having the technical specs to do it (we only use a fraction of the possible carrier wave spectrum), were actually listening, or care about the implications.


18 posted on 05/13/2014 2:11:24 PM PDT by discostu (Seriously, do we no longer do "phrasing"?!)
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If there are billions of galaxies, and the distance between most of them are hundreds of millions of light years then two things are fairly certain. 1)There no doubt are many civilizations out there.2) Given the laws of physics and the fact that the speed of light is the universal speed limit, there is no way any biological entity or mechanical construction from an alien civilization has ever or ever will visit earth. However Earth has been transmitting data in analog form for over one hundred years and in algorithmic digital form for over thirty. It is quite possible that alien civilizations have linked up with one another by relaying data (with long travel times) to each other. Perhaps in thirty years or so some computers on earth will be “infected” with a truly wondrous virus.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 2:14:25 PM PDT by allendale
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21 posted on 05/13/2014 2:19:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Far too many speculations based on wrong assumptions about the universe in that article...


23 posted on 05/13/2014 2:19:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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I think we were already visited by aliens from outer space. They didn’t like what they saw so they don’t come back anymore.


25 posted on 05/13/2014 2:21:07 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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The Berserker Theory was interesting but the problem I see with that is that a psychotic killer race of beings couldn’t cover the distances to stamp out life everywhere in the galaxy. Then there are other galaxies we might see signs of artificial phenomena from. Unless the theory is that every galaxy has a Berserker race in it that manages to extinguish all other advanced cultures before they produce an identifiable trace of themselves. Sounds extremely unlikely.


29 posted on 05/13/2014 2:33:32 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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How about we are just in a crappy location. We are all alone (as opposed to being in a nebula) at the edge of spiral Arm, 2/3 on the way out.

Essentially, in Galactic terms, we are in the middle of nowhere in South Dakota.

The whole galaxy could be filled with life that talks to each other, but we are just so far away from it all


36 posted on 05/13/2014 3:00:46 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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bkmk


46 posted on 05/13/2014 3:30:03 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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bkmk


53 posted on 05/13/2014 3:59:33 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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