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To: DesertRhino
Handled better as in butt out completely.

Did you read the article? The astronomical research of Copernicus, who was writing books regarding heliocentrism at the same time as Galileo, was funded by several Cardinals. Copernicus even dedicated one of his books on heliocentricity to Pope Paul III, because he felt that the pope might protect him from antagonistic Protestant astronomers, and even Luther himself.

Galileo's "proofs" for heliocentrism were wrong. They were erroneous. He had the correct answer, but no scientific evidence to support his claim. Today, we would classify Galileo's claim as a "theory," which is what the Church did. But Galileo demanded that the Church declare his theory to be fact.

16 posted on 03/22/2015 4:28:59 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Bullshine. The church itself contradicted that just last year. The Roman inquisition was not a simple search for rigorous academic standards.
By their OWN records, they forbade him to even defend his theories, stop all defense of them, and said they were against the scripture.

But whatever, the arguments about his “proof” etc,, misses the elephant in the room. By what right to they arrest and try ANYONE? Where did Jesus teach that? They made it up out of whole cloth.


18 posted on 03/22/2015 4:37:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“Copernicus even dedicated one of his books on heliocentricity to Pope Paul III, because he felt that the pope might protect him from antagonistic Protestant astronomers, and even Luther himself.”

Picked one gangster to protect him from another. The simple fact is that in that era, a scientist had to be very careful that his work did not threaten the theology of where he lived or he might wind up dead or imprisoned. So that fact alone makes it very specious to argue that that science exploded because of ANY church. At best, the churches were dragged kicking and screaming along. That’s protestants and catholics.


19 posted on 03/22/2015 4:41:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“But Galileo demanded that the Church declare his theory to be fact”.

Then you, as a vatican, simply say,,,,,,,,, “no thank you”.


20 posted on 03/22/2015 4:43:04 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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