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To: walkinginthedesert
What you have written is the truth about the medieval ages and science. If you haven't already I highly recommend the book: The Sleepwalkers: A History of Man's Changing Vision of the Universe by Arthur Koestler. It goes into great detail about these things.

And you were being polite, but Galileo was an ass. He brought the whole thing on himself.

3 posted on 03/21/2015 11:59:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It does look like Galileo had no respect for the underpinnings of the natural philosophy he rode upon the crest of. Modern atheistic takes on science, likewise, like to cite him as a champion against a “recalcitrant, backwards” church. They forget that the church ended up embracing the new natural revelations once scriptural repercussions were carefully examined.

If there is a problem in many of the halls of modern fundamentalism, it is ironically an over-scientism. Can we presume on some kind of independent clock that works exactly the same way that our modern technologically developed clocks, operating from the word “go” in the divine acts of creation? In modern parlance, do we refuse to consider embracing a day-age theory of creation because those just have to be 24 x 60 minute days with all the modern implications? Because we invented clocks, did God’s concept of a daily labor punch card need to obey such clocks? Or is the partitioning of the story intended to underscore the divine humility in bestowing the large “days” of eternity in miniature upon the tiny, fleeting earth? We have to remember that God measures us. We cannot measure God.


5 posted on 03/22/2015 1:24:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

technologically developed clocks => technologically developed clocks do


6 posted on 03/22/2015 1:28:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
And you were being polite, but Galileo was an ass. He brought the whole thing on himself.

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Papal Condemnation (Sentence) of Galileo

(June 22, 1633)

We condemn you to the formal prison of this Holy office during our pleasure, and by way of salutary penance we enjoin that for three years to come you repeat once a week at the seven penitential Psalms. Reserving to ourselves liberty to moderate, commute or take off, in whole or in part, the aforesaid penalties and penance.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/galileo/condemnation.html

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In your opinion, was that a just punishment? Or do you think his unalienable Rights were violated?

10 posted on 03/22/2015 4:03:52 AM PDT by Ken H (DILLIGAF)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“but Galileo was an ass. He brought the whole thing on himself.”

One being an ass somehow giving a church the right to arrest and try them is a cornerstone of ISIS. It is wholly against everything Christ lived and taught.
The church in that period was tragically lost spiritually.

If he was an ass, then they could ignore, refute, or forbid their members from referring to it. Anything else made them no better than Stalin, ISIS, King George, the democrat party, or the Nazis.


11 posted on 03/22/2015 4:06:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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