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1,700 years ago, the mismanagement of a migrant crisis cost Rome its empire
Source material cannot be posted to FR | 07 May 2016 | Annalisa Merelli

Posted on 05/08/2016 2:46:27 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: unixfox

Barack Obama could not do what he is doing without his enablers from both parties.


21 posted on 05/08/2016 3:34:00 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: midlander

“How about a plan for a pathway to citizenship in America.”
Yeh !!!!
As in,for the “OLD” trespassers, for every year you have been here illegally, you will not get medicare,Soc.Sec. pymts etc etc after the official time to collect.

A $10,000 fine for each child you have had who took advantage of the rest of us in getting an education burdening us for years while you took advantage.

If ANY kin you brought in had a “run in” with the law, an additional ‘punishment’ shall be added to your ‘punishment’

Yeh, I know..retribution/revenge etc...GOD forgives entirely, we mere mortals have to take care of our OWN first !
This all assumes that the incarcerated bums/criminals have been SENT back. Recent lawbreakers (Illegal trespassers) also have been corraled and sent back...to get in line !


22 posted on 05/08/2016 3:34:42 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Lorianne
There are two ways to deal with refugees: one is to promote dialogue, and inclusion; the other to be unwelcoming and uncaring.

There is another way, just don't let them in.

23 posted on 05/08/2016 3:42:07 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Lorianne

It wasn’t an immigrant crisis...Romans took them to fight for them....wrong answer (obviously) the society got too self-indilgent on their own a huge difference in comparison to the USA right now. The majority of Americans recognize this form of self destruction and reject it...I.E. TRUMP. Rome imploded because of the thinking of hard work performed by others will keep the deciders in the soft luxury ...similar to the cloward Piven leftists currently in the works. Not a hard thing to compare....but an entirely different group of citizens ....mainly armed and ready populous of our republic in comparison to ANCIENT ROME....guess they weren’t as smart as they are portrayed huh?


24 posted on 05/08/2016 3:48:37 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: EagleUSA

The schools stopped teaching it. Plus schools also started giving them all “free sh1t” so they got used to authority giving them stuff.


25 posted on 05/08/2016 3:49:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mythenjoseph

indulgent


26 posted on 05/08/2016 3:50:37 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: Lorianne

There are housing shortages in every US job-creating region I know.

People like my friend need massive (~$1,000/month/housing unit) federal housing subsidies, as do hundreds of thousands of the people who live in the DC area.

Without housing, a talented actor can not work in the Los Angeles area.

Without housing, a maid can’t clean a hotel room in Falls Church, Virginia.

The Chinese simply do not permit people to live in a city without a permit.

Hard work isn’t enough. A willingness to assimilate isn’t enough.

There must be enough housing that is price matched to the wages paid.


27 posted on 05/08/2016 3:56:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Lorianne
Oh, yeah. Quartz. Quarts is put together by, and are interested in, some of the creepiest people on earth.

On their site is also a story about a gal who is a dancer. She has invetned a sensor that detects every earthquake in the world. The sensor is implanted near her elbow. The way she gives performance is to wait on stage for an earthquake to happen, then she dances according to the vibrations. She calls herself a Cyborg Artist.

That's the mentality of Quartz and the kind of people they're interested in. Brainless.
28 posted on 05/08/2016 4:16:07 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: EagleUSA

“...he is all that stands in the way of a generation...or more...of Marxist rule...”

AKA “1000 years of darkness”


29 posted on 05/08/2016 4:19:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: RedWulf

>Rome: Barbarians from the north, roads fell into disrepair, values eroded, reliance on the govt., laziness prevailed, etc.

>>Actually the western empire tried taxing people beyond the Laffer maximum for almost a 100 years. Ultimately the rich dodged the taxes, the poor didn’t pay any and the middle class was taxed into extinction. Banditry became a prime middle class job because A) no taxes, B) got to rob the super rich who paid nothing. The empire tumbled into decline as it destroyed the middle class.

True. I gave the TV Guide version...lol Well said...bottom line: middle class was destroyed and apathy prevailed.


30 posted on 05/08/2016 4:28:32 PM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: rockinqsranch

<>. . . a people of incompatible ideology advancing a physical invasion under the guise of refugees.<>

Perfect.


31 posted on 05/08/2016 4:39:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Lorianne. I'm actually going to ping this one, although, 1) I think a topic very like this has been posted before, 2) the comparison is specious, Rome didn't fall because of 'illegal immigration', and 3) I have no use for any such historical parallels/history comes in cycles nonsense. If you're interested, however, see the "Fall of Rome" keyword, more than 20 topics in there.

32 posted on 05/08/2016 4:53:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Lorianne

the gist of this seems to be that the Romans let the goths in and then weren’t generous enough with giving them provisions so they destroyed Rome. What’s the point, that Europe needs to treat the muslims better? That won’t do anything but delay the inevitable, if that.


33 posted on 05/08/2016 6:12:32 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Lorianne

Hey that is a good thing to remember. There are some serious parallels.

I posted this on both of my facebook friends walls.

My hope is that they will get it out there.


34 posted on 05/08/2016 6:13:01 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Lorianne

The US is already dead. It is merely seeking a place to fall.


35 posted on 05/08/2016 6:14:09 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Lorianne

Well the author is a dumb ass, but the facts speak for themselves.


36 posted on 05/08/2016 6:16:06 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Lorianne

——That wasn’t free land—it was in the Roman empire, under the rule of Valens—and so Fritigern, who was leading the Goths asked to “be received by him as his subjects, promising to live quietly, and to furnish a body of auxiliary troops if any necessity for such a force should arise.” Rome had a lot to gain from this. Those lands needed cultivating, and more soldiers were always welcome by the empire. “By combining the strength of his own people with these foreign forces,” Marcellinus writes of Valens, “he would have an army absolutely invincible.”——

——As a sign of gratitude to Valens, Fritigern converted to Christianity.——

To relate this historic event to an Islamic invasion happening today in the form of a refuge crisis is apple and oranges...

There is no assimilation or acceptance of western culture or living quietly..


37 posted on 05/08/2016 6:50:25 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Most people have no sense of history so how are you going to put 2 and 2 together?

Dude, most people today struggle with putting 2 and 2 together to get 4. HOW the h-ll can they be expected to grasp history of an empire that finally faded with the fall of Constantinople?

38 posted on 05/08/2016 7:01:10 PM PDT by Samwell Tarly (America is becoming "Harrison Bergeron" had it been envisioned by Ayn Rand)
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To: StormEye

Immigrants who are true Christians, immigrants who have new ideas, etc. are certainly welcome....NOT the unskilled welfare-cheats who are bound up in the hate their Muslim mullahs fill them with, and want to destroy our country.


39 posted on 05/08/2016 7:44:10 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

So many parallels between the US and Rome it’s not even funny.


40 posted on 05/08/2016 7:49:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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