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1,700 years ago, the mismanagement of a migrant crisis cost Rome its empire
Source material cannot be posted to FR | 07 May 2016 | Annalisa Merelli

Posted on 05/08/2016 2:46:27 PM PDT by Lorianne

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; ancientrome; fallofrome; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; immigration; refugeecrisis; romanempire
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1 posted on 05/08/2016 2:46:27 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

http://qz.com/677380/1700-years-ago-the-mismanagement-of-a-migrant-crisis-cost-rome-its-empire/


2 posted on 05/08/2016 2:46:39 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Most people have no sense of history so how are you going to put 2 and 2 together?


3 posted on 05/08/2016 2:50:41 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Lorianne

“...he is all that stands in the way of a generation...or more...of Marxist rule...”

It is unfortunate for America that more of the weak-minded electorate do not realize this horrid fact.


4 posted on 05/08/2016 2:51:20 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Lorianne
its not mismanagement...TPTB are doing everything exactly the way they want...

they want no boundaries...they want free access to sell their crap everywhere...they want to restrict some items to send the prices skyrocketing and impoverishing more and more people....see pharmaceuticals....perfect example..

and, as they unleash foreign animals to be around us, the chaos that it creates is the cream on top...

animal dung, all of them.....

5 posted on 05/08/2016 2:58:48 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Lorianne

“There are two ways to deal with refugees: one is to promote dialogue, and inclusion; the other to be unwelcoming and uncaring”

A third way is to make them go elsewhere.


6 posted on 05/08/2016 2:59:13 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocal supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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To: Lorianne

Correct problem, asinine conclusion by the author. The author seems to thing inclusion and tolerance is the answer for a refugee crisis. The answer is to turn them away before they become a problem. But I agree that history has an interesting way of repeating itself.


7 posted on 05/08/2016 3:00:26 PM PDT by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again)
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To: Lorianne

The author’s conclusion is just what he is ‘supposed’ to say.

Of course immigrants who truly wish to fully join and ar truly needed should be welcome. That has made our country and others prosper.

Accepting immigrants that don’t want to integrate and aren’t needed is a recipe for disaster. It’s so stupid that I can’t think of an example from history of it occurring.

It IS a common practice in history for invaders to drive vanquished before them to sap the defender’s resources.


8 posted on 05/08/2016 3:00:51 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


9 posted on 05/08/2016 3:02:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mike Darancette

How about a plan for a pathway to citizenship in America.
Follow the rules, and demonstrate willingness to process into what makes America great.


10 posted on 05/08/2016 3:03:24 PM PDT by midlander
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To: Lorianne
This story, while sounding much like a support piece for Trump is more a hit piece against Trump. However, you do not get it until the last paragraph.

The migrants trying to get to Europe right now are not about to raise up in arms, and Europe is not—thankfully—the Roman empire. But this story shows well that migration has always and will always be a part of our world. There are two ways to deal with refugees: one is to promote dialogue, and inclusion; the other to be unwelcoming and uncaring. The second has led to disaster before—and in one way or another, is sure to do so again.

However, the reality is we have always been the first, but now we are getting the same results as the second. So to hell with them, and Europe had better learn to say the same and quickly.

11 posted on 05/08/2016 3:13:05 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: mrsmith
"Of course immigrants who truly wish to fully join and ar truly needed should be welcome."

Why?

12 posted on 05/08/2016 3:13:08 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Lorianne

We don’t have a “mismanagement” problem. We have a problem with the managers. They are orchestrating the demise on purpose.

F U B O!!


13 posted on 05/08/2016 3:13:41 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Robert DeLong

I agree. The author to me draws the wrong conclusions. Probably trying to be PC.


14 posted on 05/08/2016 3:14:04 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: midlander
"How about a plan for a pathway to citizenship in America."

How about a plan for a pathway right back to where they came from.

15 posted on 05/08/2016 3:14:39 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Lorianne

Rome: Barbarians from the north, roads fell into disrepair, values eroded, reliance on the govt., laziness prevailed, etc.


16 posted on 05/08/2016 3:18:01 PM PDT by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: Lorianne
The migrants trying to get to Europe right now are not about to raise up in arms...

They will not have to. The new mayor of London, 1 of 8 children born to a Pakistani bus driver and seamstress, demonstrates all they need to do is flood the elections. Perhaps with the help of liberals, at least initially. In the interim, they can rely on host housing and assistance.

There are two ways to deal with refugees: one is to promote dialogue, and inclusion; the other to be unwelcoming and uncaring.

The author is either terribly naive or scheming. She limits us to one of two choices, one of which is to open the door and the other designed to shame us.

17 posted on 05/08/2016 3:18:45 PM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: Lorianne

Today’s “Crisis” is a people of incompatible ideology advancing a physical invasion under the guise of refugees.

The errant conclusion stated in the article is as Leftist as it gets. .


18 posted on 05/08/2016 3:20:54 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: choctaw man

>Rome: Barbarians from the north, roads fell into disrepair, values eroded, reliance on the govt., laziness prevailed, etc.

Actually the western empire tried taxing people beyond the Laffer maximum for almost a 100 years. Ultimately the rich dodged the taxes, the poor didn’t pay any and the middle class was taxed into extinction. Banditry became a prime middle class job because A) no taxes, B) got to rob the super rich who paid nothing. The empire tumbled into decline as it destroyed the middle class.


19 posted on 05/08/2016 3:21:57 PM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: Lorianne
In fact, even though we have taken them in, and Europe as well, there are many promoting that they are victims. Which is why they refuse to assimilate. Without assimilation then you are asking to be abused and eventually overthrown.

So yes, the author is advocating assimilation, but then made the Goths, victims, as justification for their actions in overthrowing the Roman Empire in that part of the world. Truth is that the Goths did not want to assimilate, because it would take a generation at least to hold positions of power. When they outnumbered their hosts, they became the power holders. End of story.

20 posted on 05/08/2016 3:31:24 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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