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New York making state colleges tuition-free for middle class, poor
CBS / Associated Press ^ | 4/10/2017 | Staff

Posted on 04/10/2017 7:05:53 AM PDT by simpson96

ALBANY, N.Y. -- New York will be the first state to make tuition at public colleges and universities free for middle-class students under a state budget approved by lawmakers Sunday.

The plan crafted by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo will apply to any New York student whose family has an annual income of $125,000 or less. To qualify the student would have to meet certain class load and grade point average restrictions, and room and board would not be covered.

“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” Cuomo said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City. “If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.

The initiative is included in a $153 billion state budget proposal that passed the state Senate late Sunday after being endorsed by the Assembly a day earlier. The budget was due by April 1, but difficult negotiations delayed passage.

The tuition plan will be phased in over three years, with families making $100,000 or less annually eligible in the fall of 2017, with the threshold rising to $125,000 in 2019. Cuomo’s office says some 940,000 families will qualify. The initiative also includes $19 million for a new tuition award program for students at private colleges.

The governor’s office estimates that the program will cost the state $163 million.

Officials at some private colleges and universities are expressing concern about the impact on the, reports CBS New York.

When asked by CBS New York if he feared an exodus of students to free state schools, Robert Gilmore, who handles admissions at Manhattanville College, replied, “I really kind of am.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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1 posted on 04/10/2017 7:05:53 AM PDT by simpson96
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“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” Cuomo said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City.

True. The subjects I took in HS are now college level courses.................

2 posted on 04/10/2017 7:08:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: simpson96
The governor’s office estimates that the program will cost the state $163 million.

No, it will cost the New York taxpayers $163 million.
3 posted on 04/10/2017 7:08:56 AM PDT by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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To: simpson96

Speeding up the indoctrination process.

NY taxpayers will now give the country free college.


4 posted on 04/10/2017 7:09:20 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: simpson96

A smart play would have been to open trade schools instead.


5 posted on 04/10/2017 7:10:23 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: simpson96

TINSTAAFL*

*There is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone always pays.


6 posted on 04/10/2017 7:11:22 AM PDT by nickedknack
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To: simpson96

“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” Cuomo said...
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So why not make high school better instead of picking the pockets of taxpayers?


7 posted on 04/10/2017 7:12:15 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: greatvikingone

Because then you wouldn’t have so many union dues paying teachers.


8 posted on 04/10/2017 7:15:49 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: day10

No, it will cost billions annually, the state numbers are simply wrong.
Back of the envelope - $6K typical undergrad tuition x 400,000 undergrads = 2.4 Billion.


9 posted on 04/10/2017 7:16:13 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: simpson96

Any grade point restrictions that are imposed for qualifying will be declared inherently racist.


10 posted on 04/10/2017 7:18:50 AM PDT by NCnodeLOGICBOMB (Noise is a byproduct of inefficiency.)
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To: simpson96

This is NOT a reward to families and students. This is just another way of perpetually funding the educational industrial establishment, and insuring they need do nothing to deserve that funding. They don’t have to defend their costs, their rise in tuition, their bloated administration, tenure, political bias or anything else. The state - in the name of “rewarding the children” will insure academia survives, unreformed, unrepentent and as costly and biased as ever.


11 posted on 04/10/2017 7:19:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: buwaya

More soda tax needed.


12 posted on 04/10/2017 7:19:08 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: simpson96

“If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.

That is absolute BS.

I know several very successful people that didn’t graduate college. I know several college graduates that haven’t had such great success.

There are a lot of people that would be better off as electricians, welders, HVAC technicians, plumbers, etc., than they would with a masters in history, psychology, urban studies, sociology, etc.

It’s a big lie.


13 posted on 04/10/2017 7:20:01 AM PDT by boycott
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To: greatvikingone

That was my reaction, too. So why not make high schools today like high schools of fifty years ago?

Then I read the rest of his quote where he basically says jobs that require a HS education are largely gone and, tosucceed today, you need a college education.

This is a fallacy. Maybe 20% to 25% of HS graduates can handle college. When it’s “free,” kids who shouldn’t be there are going to take up valuable and limited spots. What’s he going to do? Triple the number of college classrooms?


14 posted on 04/10/2017 7:20:45 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: simpson96

So they want 13th grade?

Are they going to eliminate the need for SAT and ACT tests too?


15 posted on 04/10/2017 7:27:02 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Wuli
DING, DING, DING

We have a winner!!!

Wuli, now report to your local indoctrination center to be retrained in sensitivity to those same administrators...

16 posted on 04/10/2017 7:27:32 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: boycott

There are many mindless employers who use the “college degree” requirement to weed out the losers and malcontents that they get when a high school diploma or GED is the requirement.

The employers know that nothing about the job or the future of the job requires a college grad. But, they don’t want to send rejection letters to the thousands of applicants who will fail to understand why they are not good enough to be hired.

A person who has attended college, even the worthless junior colleges and low bar schools specializing in things like gender studies and black history, has demonstrated enough initiative to borrow some money and show up now and then.


17 posted on 04/10/2017 7:27:59 AM PDT by anton
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To: simpson96

Cuomo is out of his mind. If the state has money for this kind of welfare program it should cut its budget a whole lot. (Hire me. I will reduce the taxpayers’ load by 50%)


18 posted on 04/10/2017 7:29:00 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Break up the partisan tech giants.)
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To: simpson96

Cuomo is out of his mind. If the state has money for this kind of welfare program it should cut its budget a whole lot. (Hire me. I will reduce the taxpayers’ load by 50%)


19 posted on 04/10/2017 7:29:24 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Break up the partisan tech giants.)
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To: buwaya

Very true.

This is utter insanity.


20 posted on 04/10/2017 7:30:05 AM PDT by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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