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To: NobleFree
Numbers would make the statement even more meaningful - but even without them, all sane readers will agree that the American Society of Addiction Medicine knows more about addiction than you do.

As I pointed out in my previous response, their statement does not contradict my position. Depending by what they mean by it, it may very well reinforce my point. In China addiction rose to the point that by 1900 about half of China's male population was addicted to Opium. If the "genetic factor" mentioned works out to about 50% of any given population, then that would correspond to what history tells us happened in China.

A substance can have medical value without being "approved" - and the Institute of Medicine has reported that marijuana does.

The point here is that you cannot hold up an organization as an "expert" only when you think they are supporting your position, and then dismiss their expertise when their position goes clearly against you.

94 posted on 06/29/2017 9:55:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
“Genetic factors account for about half of the likelihood that an individual will develop addiction. Environmental factors interact with the person’s biology and affect the extent to which genetic factors exert their influence. Resiliencies the individual acquires (through parenting or later life experiences) can affect the extent to which genetic predispositions lead to the behavioral and other manifestations of addiction. Culture also plays a role in how addiction becomes actualized in persons with biological vulnerabilities to the development of addiction.” - American Society of Addiction Medicine

humans are humans no matter where on the globe they exist, and they are susceptible to the same afflictions wherever they reside.

Occidentals are just as susceptible to opium addiction as are Orientals.

The text I posted from the American Society of Addiction Medicine rebuts your "humans are humans" reductionism.

their statement does not contradict my position. Depending by what they mean by it, it may very well reinforce my point.

The importance of environmental factors, life experiences, and culture clearly do contradict your "humans are humans" reductionism.

If the "genetic factor" mentioned works out to about 50% of any given population

It doesn't - the "account for" means that half of the variation in addictedness among persons corresponds to variations in genetic factors. And since the Chinese clearly have genetic differences from the non-Chinese majority in America, there are no grounds in genetics for supposing that the Chinese experience with opiate addiction would be replicated in America.

99 posted on 06/29/2017 1:00:08 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Numbers would make the statement even more meaningful - but even without them, all sane readers will agree that the American Society of Addiction Medicine knows more about addiction than you do.

They are considerably less authoritative on the subject of medicines in general:

there is no "Medical marijuana" because the plant parts in question fails to meet the standard requirements for approved medicines,

A substance can have medical value without being "approved" - and the Institute of Medicine has reported that marijuana does.

Marijuana has many serious, negative health effects.

So does chemotherapy - but it's appropriate when the disease being treated is even worse.

The point here is that you cannot hold up an organization as an "expert" only when you think they are supporting your position, and then dismiss their expertise when their position goes clearly against you.

The point here is that the American Society of Addiction Medicine has little if any expertise in non-addiction medical matters - as is confirmed by their silly arguments against medical marijuana.

101 posted on 06/29/2017 1:07:57 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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