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Greenfield: Understanding the McMaster NSC Purge
Sultan Knish ^ | 8/9/17 | Greenfield

Posted on 08/09/2017 8:19:55 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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To: silverleaf

Did you read the tweets?? The news about McMaster contradicts itself. It’s a bunch of speculation and a mess.

I’d say Trump knows McMaster far better than anyone here on FR or in the press.

I trust Trump.


21 posted on 08/09/2017 8:46:34 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 9YearLurker

The misinformation is what rolling you - believe it and you are a tool for the anti-trumpters who are trying to thwart Trump.

I trust Trump, he knows McMaster far better than you.


22 posted on 08/09/2017 8:48:06 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

All reports are that Trump hired McMaster after a half-hour interview and that McMaster has rubbed him the wrong way—of course while being insubordinate in various ways too—ever since.

None of this stuff comes from the anti-Trumpers and the fervid defense of McMaster comes from Democrats and Never Trumpers. You just keep posting that down is up without evidence—because the evidence is all in the other direction.


23 posted on 08/09/2017 8:50:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dynoman

Easy to debate what is rumor and what is fact

Were all the named individuals fired - or not?
If so - why?

Were the named people hired?
If so- why?

I believe Trump and his civilian newbie politician coterie has a naivete about military resumes and uniforms with lots of combat medals


24 posted on 08/09/2017 8:52:41 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: silverleaf

Reportedly Trump first looked into that months ago—and the military didn’t want him back.


25 posted on 08/09/2017 8:53:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mr. Mojo

That’s a powerful argument.


26 posted on 08/09/2017 8:54:19 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: LS
Thanks for the shout out for Thomas Wictor!

08/06/2017 7:20:11 PM PDT · 23 of 56
LS to davikkm

The anti-McM stuff is really getting old. He is OPPOSED to the Iran deal, has written against it extensively.

You all really need to read Thomas Wictor’s extensive twitter threads on McM.

I was just in WH Friday with Gorka & Bannon. No question McM is a “globalist” and as a general favors “big power.” But “he’s done some good things,” I was told and he is more than offset by other people in the Administration. There was no language about him being a “leaker” or involved in a “coup,” rather just another department that has different views.

Now, you ask, why keep anyone who doesn’t hold your views 100%? You might have asked that question of George Washington, whose cabinet was totally opposed to each other (Jefferson & Hamilton), or Lincoln (whose cabinet all thought they were smarter than Lincoln and who almost ALL disagreed with him on everything). The point is a strong Pres. not only can handle this but NEEDS opposing points of view, if only to have the correct point of view better illuminated.

If Bannon isn’t concerned, and if Gorka isn’t concerned and if DT isn’t concerned, maybe some people here are too concerned? Otherwise, what you are really saying is you don’t trust Trump or you think he isn’t smart enough to see what is happening, or what views are being presented.


27 posted on 08/09/2017 8:54:33 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 9YearLurker

Read post 27. I’ll believe Thomas Wictor and LS over you anyday.


28 posted on 08/09/2017 8:56:00 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: silverleaf

“Were all the named individuals fired - or not?
If so - why?”

Ok, were they?? and if they were why aren’t they talking about it??


29 posted on 08/09/2017 8:56:59 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Bttt.

5.56mm


30 posted on 08/09/2017 8:57:11 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: 9YearLurker

“All reports”

By who?

It’s crap intended to take down Trump admin officials just like Flynn was taken down. Wake up!


31 posted on 08/09/2017 8:59:18 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Read post 27, then the twitter links I posted on this thread.


32 posted on 08/09/2017 9:01:08 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

LS admits to having recommended McMaster.

And you’re being a fool.


33 posted on 08/09/2017 9:03:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

LOL! Have you visited the White House lately? Have you talked to Bannon directly?? Looks like you are the one being fooled.


34 posted on 08/09/2017 9:06:49 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

We’re getting rolled by anti-trumpers. Crap like this is how they get us to attack people like Sessions and McMaster and thwart Trump’s agenda. Read the links I posted on this thread.
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Reports are that Israel has intercepted emails from McMaster to Soros detailing his moves to purge anyone pro-Trump.


35 posted on 08/09/2017 9:07:57 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: Neidermeyer
McMaster's ties to Obama, Susan Rice, CFR, Soros, Bilderberg and John McCain are well documented. "Deep State" should be his middle name, a veritable slithering reptile straight off the Soros snake farm.
 
36 posted on 08/09/2017 9:29:36 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: dynoman; LS
I know these palace intrigues seem fascinating, but I believe the smart money has already "moved on". To wit, both the commercial & financial markets seem to have absorbed the knowledge that not only is Trump not going anywhere, but his MAGA agenda is going to be implemented & succeed.

The ever higher market valuations, favorable jobs reports & capital investment announcements are just incipient trend lines originating from mundane, yet critically important changes in regulation & trade.

Yet, to understand why these factors are relevant is to recognize that everyone is trying to get on board now. When Trump's platform & supporters capture Congress in 2018, then we're going to really be off to the races, so everyone is trying to get in on the ground floor today.f

If one has any perspective, they come to realize that the US really is a unique animal. Just the right mix of legal process, property rights, innovation and thuggery. We're not overly effete like Japan & W Europe, but we're also not so unrefined as MENA. What this means is that the US represents an incredible miasma of economic activity. We've managed somehow to stay afloat while actively being strangled.

Now consider if those deserving of merit are finely let loose, what do imagine will happen? That's what the market movements are reflecting: that MAGA is going to open up a torrent of economic activity & innovation.

37 posted on 08/09/2017 9:29:45 AM PDT by semantic
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To: dynoman

dang, I finally found a comment I can agree with.

I don’t trust anything anybody says about what’s going on but Trump. He’s no fool. If he wants McMaster there he is bound to have his reasons.


38 posted on 08/09/2017 9:33:59 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: semantic

I agree. But it’s like Bannon said, “if anyone believes the establishment is going to give up without a fight they are mistaken”. Part of the fight is manipulating the discussion to try and take out Trump’s team. That’s what the Flynn thing was, and it’s what the McMaster thing is. The Thomas Wictor tweets are a view from 10,000 feet of the weeds on the ground. He shows so much of the “news” (weeds) about McMaster is contradictory. The problem is people getting stuck staring at weeds and ignoring the big picture.


39 posted on 08/09/2017 9:35:26 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Cen-Tejas

You might like the Thomas Wictor tweets I linked here. He tweets in a series, like a story.


40 posted on 08/09/2017 9:37:44 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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