[little jeremiah]

Larry Schweikart's comments on the Vachel thread:

1) This is an amazing & unsettling thread. Still seeking to poke holes, but on the surface it answers ALL questions:

First, if Zero was not just "behind" the spying but AUTHORIZED IT HIMSELF without a FISA as is suggested, now we have a

TLE

A Thanos-Level-Event https://t.co/0guQoJv6kQ— Larry Schweikart (@LarrySchweikart) May 25, 2018

2) Second, it would explain why the DOJ has been fanatical about keeping the info secret. Talk about civil war! And DOJ is probably---again, if true---wrestling with the issue of what do you so with an ex-pres???— Larry Schweikart (@LarrySchweikart) May 25, 2018

3) Last it would explain Mulehead's behavior, namely running around doing nothing, like a chicken with his head cut off. If he KNEW he's probably clueless as to how to proceed in "his" job which not only makes no sense but implicates Zero in everything he touches.

FOLLOW CLOSELY— Larry Schweikart (@LarrySchweikart) May 25, 2018

[spokeshave2]

Wow....joining the dots

More like tripping over bricks

Makes Watergate look like a sleep in.

[Cboldt]

I've always assumed, believed and thought that snooping was going on without a warrant. That's the "unmasking of 702" operation, and maybe just pure black bag jobs.

The 702 unmasking might leave a paper trail. Black bag job, not so much.

The paper trail will not have Obama's name on it. No way, no how. And many of these skunks would undertake this sort of action on their own initiative. Perhaps advising Obama, but maybe shielding him from the action.

My point being that evidence linking Obama to this is going to be circumstantial and will rely on a leap. To be fair, I think he (at least) knew, but I don't think I could prove it.

[Cboldt]

One more thing. _Vachel timeline has the warrantless snooping starting after and depending on the Steele Dossier. I think the warrantless snooping predated the Steele Dossier by months, maybe a year.

I don't believe for a second that there was any effort to abide by 50 USC 1802 for warrantless surveillance. None of this material was ever intended to be submitted for any sort of prosecution, why leave any paper trail at all? See too, use of National Security Letters.

Back to the FISA framework ... if you are able to obtain the snooping without a warrant, I mean technically able, nobody demanding to see paperwork, etc., then why create any paperwork? I think the paperwork of FISA warrants came later, when the outcome of the election wasn't quite so certain, and there was a need to advance a damaging narrative against Trump.

[SERKIT]

Larry Schweikart's comments on the Vachel thread:

This is interesting, logical, and frightening.

If Session (as a Senator) was privy to this whole scheme, is this why he recused himself, step away from it, and swoop back in for the kill? Or, am I looking at this wrong?

[thinden]

good post.

Good job vachel

good job to LS

[humblegunner]

Larry Schweikart's comments on the Vachel thread:

Believe it or not, it isn't everyone who chooses to kiss that guy's butt.

It may taste good to you, but to a lot of folks he's just another wanker with an opinion.