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To: Norski
If a dog determined to be dangerous kills someone, that owner could be charged with a felony.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course but unless there's intent to commit a crime; there is no crime.

I personally would not keep a biting dog around. No matter how much I cared for the animal; as long as I could see it was a danger to others I would have to do the right thing and euthanize it. In fact I thought I had such a dog (not a Pit) and turned her into the pound when she bit me when I tried to pull her away from my Pit-mix while they were fighting. I later learned she was not trying to hurt me but was seeing red from being in a fight over something the two dogs disagreed about. I regret that decision to this day and will never make that same mistake again. By the way; the Pit-mix didn't bite me at all and the one that did was generally gentle but because I had it in my head I would not tolerate a biting dog I made the fatal mistake of turning her in where they they promptly killed her. My heart aches to this day over that stupid mistake. By the time I realized how stupid I had been; it was too late. They had already killed her. That guilt is mine to carry for the rest of my life.

From what I understand home insurance companies do raise their rates on folks who have certain breeds of dogs. The bully breeds to be exact. Landlords frequently won't rent to those who own those breeds as well.

If some people don't know some breeds are more prone to unexpected violent behavior by now with all the publicity they have gotten over the years; they will never get it. One place to remind people of this is at rescue shelters. If you really want to do some good on stopping the adoption of the bully breeds; that's where you do it.

I inherited a Doberman years ago. I was advised to be aware this breed can literally go insane as it gets into its senior years. Heck; some people do too. Did you hear about the 92 yo woman who shot and killed her own son because he wanted to put her in an assisted living home? By the way; I had to give the Dobie away because I too could not keep it where I moved to. She lived a nice long life until she started acting "off" then the decision was made to put her down by the people who had her at the time. Dog people generally know if their dog has a violent streak. Whether they act on that is another story which I think is your point. You want to force them to put these dogs down before they cause harm; at least that's the way I'm taking it. I can appreciate that point because who wants to see their dog cause harm to others; especially a child. The guilt would be unbearable.

If you're going to beat up one breed of dogs day after day then you should at least be fair and post the same bizarre behavior shown by people on a daily basis.

Do you think it's time to start pro-actively euthanizing these people who show signs of dementia and/or insanity with a tendency toward violence? One never knows when they will kill their own children after all. For the good of the children; right? Of course the children might be in their 60's or 70's but what about the grandchildren?

I believe there's enough evidence to eliminate the strain of Pit-Bulls in existence today even though it's a small percentage that actually cause harm. The real question is how does society go about doing this? You can't possibly demand every Pit-Bull owner kill their beloved dog so what is the answer? Forced sterilization? Free neutering a spaying for any Pit, Dobie, Rottie, Boxer, or any other bully breed? I'd really like to know the answer because pointing out the danger is noble even if redundant at this point. For what it's worth; I would not have a bully breed around small children. Heck; I'd be very concerned around big kids knowing how mean some of them can be to animals at times. Maybe we should euthanize those mean kids while we're at it.

I've read about science being able to see into our DNA to tell us who is pre-disposed to certain diseases. Maybe one day soon science will be able to do a DNA test on unborn babies so if they are pre-disposed to violence so we can cull them from the womb before they are born to do harm. If we can do this for humans maybe we can do it for puppies when they are born. A quick stick with a needle and if the test strip turns red; kill it. Sound crazy? It may be where we are heading; scientifically speaking.

Seriously though; if you really want to end the ownership of the bully breeds you're going to have to go to where people usually get them. The rescue shelters who adopt them out. Puppy mills are even worse because they tend to inbreed them.

13 posted on 07/20/2018 2:16:14 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer

Insane reply boomer, Comparing a dog breed to humans because humans also kill. While I agree there are blood thirsty humans,the extreme rarity of them in society does not put them on the same plane as pits and their off shoots. Infact you may have just as well said Black humans kill more per capita than white humans so we should ban blacks using the logic as those who wish to ban pits.. or maybe whites because most serial killers are white, Or white late teens early 20 somethings because most mass murderers are teen males. The most dangerous breed of human right now isn’t a breed its a mental illness called tds . Ill stop now , you have been enlightened enough to your own twisted logic. You wont be convinced until its too late and that dog has euther died or bite someone. I hope you never have to face criminal charges for your dog, but wouldn’t bey a dime on it. iow. I cant fix stupid, but i can point it out.


15 posted on 07/20/2018 3:19:49 AM PDT by Ikeon (The news of my demise have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: Boomer

NORK won’t reply to you. You have stated fact.
Cynophobic Mafia.
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29 posted on 07/20/2018 4:40:19 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Boomer
but unless there's intent to commit a crime; there is no crime.

You working for Hillary these days?

34 posted on 07/20/2018 5:34:41 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Boomer

I liked your post.

My family has always owned ‘bully breeds’: Dobermans, German Shepherds, Great Danes, Boxers, and now I own 2 rescues that are half pit bull.

We are all still alive and kicking. We handle them responsibly, but unfortunately not everyone does this. I see this as the owner’s fault, not the dog’s.


40 posted on 07/20/2018 6:43:09 AM PDT by bearkat
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To: Boomer

“If a dog determined to be dangerous kills someone, that owner could be charged with a felony.”
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“Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course but unless there’s intent to commit a crime; there is no crime.”

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You have made eleven statements here, and each one deserves a response.
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1) EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION OF COURSE BUT UNLESS THERE’S INTENT TO COMMIT A CRIME; THERE IS NO CRIME.
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This is an incorrect statement. If there is a human death caused by another person, it can be 1) accidental, 2) negligent, 3)intentional. Intentional can be 1) self-defense, 2) manslaughter, or 3) Homicide. Homicide can be 1) justifiable or 2) Non-justifiable )

This is far from a complete list, and I am not a legal professional, but the statement you made is incorrect.

I am willing to address your other statements in later posts, as I believe that you are sincerely looking to understand the issue.

(It may be helpful to stay with one statement and subject at at time in order to keep from overloading people who wish to respond to a portion of your comment, but cannot decide which part.)


56 posted on 07/20/2018 2:16:46 PM PDT by Norski
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