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Air Force to Retire Classic B-1 Bombers as Stealthy New B-21s Arrive
Warrior Maven ^ | 11/13/18 | Kris Osborn

Posted on 11/14/2018 5:57:47 AM PST by Cheerio

The Air Force is mapping a two-fold future path for its B-1 bomber which includes plans to upgrade the bomber

Warrior Maven Video Report: How long will the B-1 Bomber remain in service? Will it retire when the B-21 arrives?

The Air Force is mapping a two-fold future path for its B-1 bomber which includes plans to upgrade the bomber while simultaneously preparing the aircraft for eventual retirement as the service's new stealth bomber arrives in coming years.

These two trajectories, which appear as somewhat of a paradox or contradiction, are actually interwoven efforts designed to both maximize the bomber’s firepower while easing an eventual transition to the emerging B-21 bomber, Air Force officials told Warrior Maven.

(Excerpt) Read more at defensemaven.io ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; b1; dems; usaf
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To: Cheerio

What are the chances the dem controlled house will fully support 100% funding for The Wall?


21 posted on 11/14/2018 7:12:20 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: BBB333

But that’s another 2 years wasted waiting for 2020 and hoping and praying Dems don’t STEAL that election as well.


22 posted on 11/14/2018 7:13:37 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: DCBryan1
B-1 stealth bombers.

B2 Spirits.....sigh...first post of the AM.

23 posted on 11/14/2018 7:15:16 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: HamiltonJay
Seriously folks... tech is great, but why can’t we make weapon systems en masse anymore??

3 things:

1) Democrats/liberals
2) Unions,
3) Lawyers.

24 posted on 11/14/2018 7:16:18 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: wita; taxcontrol
"I am told that the B1 does not carry nukes. Is that true?"

As I understand it, the B1 was originally designed as a nuclear bomber, but has been used through modifications as a non-nuc bomber in the conventional wars we have been fighting.

The B-1B was designed and fielded as a nuclear delivery system. Around 1991/92 the AF started to experiment with conventional weapons loads and subsequently the B-1B was decertified for use with nuclear weapons and relegated to only conventional weapons use.

25 posted on 11/14/2018 7:16:40 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: DCBryan1

Nah, I don’t buy that... Unions were far more powerful in the 40s and 50s and even 60s, and the Military built tons of great weaponry en masse.


26 posted on 11/14/2018 7:17:41 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Simple Congress.......thats the answer


27 posted on 11/14/2018 7:19:16 AM PST by straps (What a joke...)
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To: straps

No, congress appropriates the money, doesn’t build the planes...

Looks like they are planning to buy 100-150 of the b21s with a rough 10-12 year widow.. So that’s a vast improvement over the b1 and b2s... but still nowhere near what we were cranking out in the 50s and 60s. Yes I know they are fare more complicated, but still... its not like the B52’s weren’t cutting edge for their time as well


28 posted on 11/14/2018 7:22:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: minnesota_bound
Just for some perspective:

B-52H:
Payload - 70,000 pounds
Speed - 650 mph (Mach 0.84)
Inventory (2013) – 78

B-2
Payload - 40,000 pounds
Speed - 630 mph (Mach 0.95)
Inventory (2014) – 19

B-1B:
Payload - 75,000 pounds (125,000 w/ externals)
Speed – 900+ mph (Mach 1.2)

Inventory (2012) – 66

29 posted on 11/14/2018 7:25:30 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: Cheerio
This thread needs a visual.

The B-1.

The B-21.


30 posted on 11/14/2018 7:51:31 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Cheerio

31 posted on 11/14/2018 8:04:43 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Psalm 73

IIRC older models B52s carried MUCH more than this over Vietnam. We basically flew the wings off those models. The base design was modified differently than the models we’ve kept.


32 posted on 11/14/2018 8:10:16 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: PLMerite

33 posted on 11/14/2018 8:10:33 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
B-1 lost its nuclear mission several years ago, to comply with the START agreement—and we actually proposed the change.

Total stupidity! The type that can result in national suicide.

34 posted on 11/14/2018 8:11:47 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
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To: Cheerio

The B-1B is the most capable bomber in the world today. And they are nowhere near worn out.

I cannot imagine a decomm of all of them.


35 posted on 11/14/2018 8:33:45 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: HamiltonJay
Seriously folks... tech is great, but why can’t we make weapon systems en masse anymore??

Augustine's Law Number XVI: In the year 2054, the entire defense budget will purchase just one aircraft. This aircraft will have to be shared by the Air Force and Navy 3-1/2 days each per week except for leap year, when it will be made available to the Marines for the extra day.



Still wondering????
36 posted on 11/14/2018 9:53:57 AM PST by Cheerio ( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

My understanding is that about a third of the payload was replaced with targeting and other systems.


37 posted on 11/14/2018 9:55:09 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

“If this country elects a Democrat as POTUS in two years, look for a return to the Obama days, with defense being absolutely gutted.”

Single payer is going to turn our military into that of Germany. And they do have the House, very important for budget and spending...so we aren’t even entirely safe now.


38 posted on 11/14/2018 10:03:48 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: Blue Highway

Horse Hockey!

Trump will compel the D’s to support the military or they will loose their house seats in 2020.

See my tag line...


39 posted on 11/14/2018 2:03:37 PM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: OldMissileer

i thought it got it’s nuts cut due to the arms treaties

Armament

Hardpoints: 6 external hardpoints for 50,000 pounds (23,000 kg) of ordnance (use for weapons restricted by arms treaties[105][193]) and 3 internal bomb bays for 75,000 pounds (34,000 kg) of ordnance.[194]


40 posted on 11/14/2018 6:00:43 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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