Posted on 12/03/2018 7:07:37 AM PST by fwdude
Yeah, that is why I said no radiation. The same thing happened to my dad. The radiation treatment cost him over a decade of life because when he passed he was otherwise in excellent health.
Some people, as a precaution, stop eating all sugar and starchy foods, because sugars are thought to feed tumors. Can’t hurt, might help.
“-——when he passed he was otherwise in excellent health.”
That’s often the case——we all die of something.
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I had a 4+3 also I chose radiation because I was SCARED SHITLESS of surgery. Now that I have calmed down I wish I had the surgery. The deal is that radiation an be given after surgery, but surgery cannot be given after radiation treatment. The options after radiation if there is a recurrence are limited. Also, the PSA goes to 0 after surgery, so it is easy to tell is there is any cancer left behind. The Psa Will begin to rise above 0. With radiation they use ‘Nadir plus 2’ as the definition of biochemical recurrence, which is arbitrary. It is nerve wracking to get the 6 month PSA esp. if you had radiation.
One of my best friends who was like a father to me had the radiation seeds. The doctor told him he would die of old age before the cancer killed him. He was in remission for 4-5 years then it came back and he died about 18 months later at 86. He had no other health problems and would likely have lived to 100. I asked him why he didn’t have the surgery and he said he was afraid of impotence and incontinence. Now he doesn’t have to worry about either one.
My girlfriends uncle had the radiation seeds and had a scenario almost identical to my friend’s. It gets rid of the cancer for awhile and then it comes back.
You can have radiation if surgery fails but not surgery if radiation fails.
You want a surgeon who has done the most procedures. Mine had done 1400 just at the hospital where I was treated and does nothing but surgery, no regular patient care.
Physiologically my function fully returned after complete prostatectomy. Cialis does help with urine control. At six weeks post op I used no pads and never since, now 4 years post op.
I had previous clean biopsy but did not like the flippant attitude of urologist so saw another. His biopsy showed Gleason 7 but pathology post op showed much more aggressive tumor.
There are many things you can do to minimize adverse effects of treatment, feel free to contact me.
I love stories like this.
And I avoid buying or eating any commercial flour because of the iron shavings they put in “under the guise of enrichment.” They don’t do this in Europe. You can still digest the wheat there. Now I buy organic unenriched flour, which is everywhere but you have to look. As long as iron % is 2% or under, and it says organic, and doesn’t list a bunch of riboflavin and iron in the ingredients, the wheat won’t be as bad. You were a victim of this wheat.
I’m so glad you had that strength of spirit to think outside the box.
Well, this is serendipitous.
I have an appointment tomorrow with a Urologist.
Had blood work a couple of weeks ago that yielded a 4.65 PSA.
Yes, my urologist discussed with me the details of radiation as a backup for surgery, but not visa versa. It makes sense.
I think it depends on your age and aggressiveness of any cancer. They say every man will eventually get prostate cancer but it won’t be what they die of unless they are young.
I’ve been through this with my husband so I know a bit even though not a male.
I would look into something called cryosurgery that freezes the cancer without damaging the rest of your life. Unfortunately my husband decided on high dose radiation instead of seeds because the seeds move around. The problem is that once you do radiation first you have exhausted your options on other treatments being affective. Radiation should be a last resort type thing. IMHO.
Surgery seems to be the most effective option but if you don’t want that look into the cryosurgery instead.
A PSA above 4 is when they start worrying. Mine hovered just under 10 for a long time. 10 is the tipping point for when they consider treatment other than active surveillance. Kind of a convenient round number, not based in science if you ask me, but there it is.
Good luck and let me know how it goes.
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Excellent information, thanks
“She said biopsies are too risky. Because the prostate is so small and it needs 12 needle probes; there’s a 5% chance of infection from fecal matter;”
In my case the chances were apparently 100%, and I ended up in the ER for only the second time in my life. I will not have another biopsy. If I die of prostrate cancer, so be it. I believe the diagnosis and treatment are worse than the condition. Just my opinion.
Always try to err on the conservative side when trying something from such studies. Also, it acts as a statin, and I don’t want interference with normal cholesterol functioning.
Because it acts as statin-like, be sure to take CoQ10 or Ubiquinol, as it could reduce your body’s ability to normally make it.
Thanks. Bump for later (much later I hope).
Bump
In fact information was so good just ordered a bit from Amazon.
Good luck, FRiend.
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