Posted on 02/14/2019 1:42:48 PM PST by Blogger
BREAKING NEWS: White House says Trump will sign spending bill to avoid shutdown but will declare border emergency TOO – as Pelosi warns GOP a future Democratic president could use the same tactic to impose gun control..."I know the Republicans have some unease about it, no matter what they say. Because if the president can declare an emergency on something that he has created as an emergency, an illusion that he wants to convey, just think of what a president with different values can present to the American people,' she said.
'You want to talk about a national emergency? Let's talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That's a national emergency. Why don't you declare that emergency, Mr. President? I wish you would. But a Democratic president can do that. [A] Democratic president can declare emergencies as well,' she threatened."
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Any judge that would be so presumptuous should be asked why, then, a future president wouldn’t be required to engage in a lengthy legal process before being allowed to respond to something like Chinese or Russian troops showing up on our borders, intent upon invading.
Invasion is invasion. Any judge who would appropriate to themselves the right to define what constitutes an “invasion”, or to otherwise second-guess a presidential decision in such a situation should be summarily ignored by the executive branch.
RE how do you counter:
Read up on Michael Collins and the IRA in Ireland during the 20s.
When it gets real personal for the people giving the orders - and those carrying out the orders - well, they tend to be less enthusiastic about it.
If history proves anything - and it does - it proves that ANYONE can be gotten to.
Nancy Pelosi is one big horse’s ass! What a stupid statement for her to make, that a democratic president could declare a national emergency on gun control. Does she not think there would be citizen opposition to that? What a fool!
“...Other than a few ‘spectator sport’ type confiscations...”
You mean like making examples?
That sh*t works both ways, friend.
B/S. Pelosi needs to be introduced to the constitution.
“To do it administratively, they will have to announce it first.”
Nope. They don’t have to do anything. In fact it will be immediate. Like a criminal search warrant. poof, there it is.
What will people who have children on insulin or chemotherapy do? What will people with long standing conditions do?
Most people, even conservative gun owners, live month to month. Lots of things like your mortgage can’t be easily paid with cash money.
This isn’t to belabor a ‘we’re doomed’ mindset. It’s to formulate a coherent response that doesn’t involve use of the actual weapons against people who are likely to be on our side anyways.
Should what Pelosi is suggesting ever come to pass, banking or medical access will be just a sideshow compared to the main event.
“That sh*t works both ways, friend.”
True enough.
The difference is yours efforts will be demonized and they’ll be sure to toss 100 dead kids into the pile along the way just to demonize you for that too. Remember, commies kill kids to prove points and make examples.
None of which will restore your access to, for example, insulin.
War is Hell.
Don’t start one, won’t BE one.
Tear down your wall Nancy. Hypocrite.
Nothing in Ireland in the ‘20’s was computerized.
No facial recognition, no banking, no medical care. Nothing.
You couldn’t be deprived of necessities by a few keystrokes from thousands of miles away.
Very different landscape today.
Pelosi would not like to see REAL insurgency.
Absolutely correct.
But until we actually put the ropes around their necks, the Leftwing DNCMedia and Socialist deomcrats will be high-fiving each other like they just won some high school football game.
They are oblivious to our rising anger and pushing limits way beyond were they need to be for their OWN safety.
They don't care, I do understand.
But when the balloon goes up, they'll wish they did.
To override the F-ing constitution?
No, the next Democrat will DEFINITELY declare a nationalist emergency to impose global climate change restrictions on your freedoms.
And (s)he would do it regardless of Trump declaring an emergency today.
Also I expect the next Democrat president will pack additional judges on the supremacist court.
“...Very different landscape today....”
Every weapon has a counterweapon.
People have been prepping for this scenario for a long time. The folks who would likely engage are already prepped for deprivation of things, and are networked.
There is always a way.
The issue isn’t the people who would likely engage and are prepped.
It’s the regular rank and file gunowners who would be affected.
So the isn’t really X million gunowners against the goverment, it’s really more like a few thousand against the government.
Meanwhile your grandmother will be on TV begging you to give up so she can get her insulin/heart pills/pacemaker batteries...
For example.
Gee. The Leftists REALLY hate it when a President does what’s in the Constitution to HELP America, versus using a pen and a phone to harm America!
*SPIT*
If they do it to a few people, the rest of us will connect the dots and react accordingly.
If they do it to millions simultaneously, there will be no need to connect the dots (oh, and as a bonus, with millions unable to buy things, the economy will shortly make the depths of the Great Depression look like an expense-paid vacation at a 5-star resort).
These things sound easy to do (and, perhaps, they are), but you neglect to analyze what happens afterwards.
I get what you’re doing here. Having a Conversation about “The Day” is not a bad thing.
But I guess my question to you is, do you really think that a whole hell of a lot of folks - people with combat experience, people with survival experience and value their freedom and liberty, etc., - haven’t thought these things through?
Sure, there will be knee-jerk reactions; but there will also be cold, calculated, and well-thought-out plans and actions.
This would be war. Maybe on a limited scale, maybe not. But war nonetheless.
People have fought with less, and won.
We are the most heavily-armed civilian population on this planet (maybe except for the Swiss). And a damned good portion of us mean to stay that way.
By any means necessary.
Agree 100%
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