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House Votes to Check Trump's Authority to Strike Iran
nytimes.com ^ | 7/12/19 | no byline

Posted on 07/12/2019 3:29:08 PM PDT by ransomnote

WASHINGTON — The House voted Friday to curb President Trump’s ability to strike Iran militarily on Friday, adopting a bipartisan provision that would require the president to get Congress’s approval before authorizing military force against Tehran.

The 251-170 vote reflects lawmakers’ growing desire to take back long-ceded authority over matters of war and peace from the executive branch, a reclamation legislators contend has grown increasingly urgent amid escalating tensions with Iran. It also reflected a war weariness on both sides of the aisle after 17 years of conflict in the Middle East; 27 Republicans joined all but seven Democrats to approve it.

Last month, Mr. Trump led the United States to the brink of a retaliatory missile strike before abruptly reversing course minutes before launch. On Thursday, three Iranian boats briefly tried to block passage of a British tanker in the Strait of Hormuz, according to Britain’s Ministry of Defense.

Mr. Trump said last month he believes he does not need congressional approval to strike Iran. The vote Friday amounted to a pointed and bipartisan rebuttal — led by strange ideological bedfellows, Representatives Ro Khanna, a liberal Democrat from California, and Matt Gaetz of Florida, one of Mr. Trump’s most strident Republican allies in Congress.

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1 posted on 07/12/2019 3:29:08 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

“......Against All Enemies, Foreign And Domestic......”


2 posted on 07/12/2019 3:30:36 PM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: Howie66

“......Against All Enemies, Foreign And Domestic......”

Ditto Dat !!!!!’


3 posted on 07/12/2019 3:33:56 PM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: ransomnote

Hahaha, Trump is literally one of a handful of people who didn’t want to attack


4 posted on 07/12/2019 3:35:42 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: ransomnote
Fine. If Iran does something, it's on you, Congress.

HA! Riiiiiight. If Iran does something, they'll pin it on President Trump and accuse him of doing nothing.

5 posted on 07/12/2019 3:35:51 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ransomnote

I’m sure the Muslims in Congress don’t want to see US bombs falling on a Muslim country.


6 posted on 07/12/2019 3:35:54 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (yawn)
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To: ransomnote

When will the Senate take up the question?


7 posted on 07/12/2019 3:38:26 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: wiseprince

No kidding. This actually screws the pooch for the RINO warmongers advising him, who REALLY want war.


8 posted on 07/12/2019 3:39:09 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Howie66

It’s BS and doesn’t mean a thing. One branch of govt. cannot usurp powers belonging to another branch. It’s the checks and balances thing. If I were Pres. Trump I’d get a judge to OVERRULE congress and give them a taste of their own medicine.


9 posted on 07/12/2019 3:42:21 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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How many conflicts has trump got us into again?


10 posted on 07/12/2019 3:42:59 PM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: antidemoncrat

Muslims in Congress, that’s the start of the problem.


11 posted on 07/12/2019 3:53:21 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Destroying the vestiges of the First Civil War is ensuring the Second.)
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To: ransomnote

“They just hit Detroit with a nuke!”

“No loss”

“But Mr President, are we going to retaliate?”

“I hope so, but right now there must be one hell of a debate over the possibility of going to war. We’ll know in a few days unless Congress goes on its scheduled recess.”

“But, Sir!”

“I know back in the good old days I’d a given the OK and we’d a clobbered them, but now we’ll likely have to take a few more hits before Congress finishes its debate and gives the OK. But you know full well some liberal judge will over rule them, halting all retaliation as ‘racist’ or something.”


12 posted on 07/12/2019 3:56:28 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ransomnote

what BS! has zero impact, effect and Nancy Pelousy knows it

what i don’t understand is why the commieDNC types keep pandering to their lunatic leftwing extremist core voting block

when they’ve GOT those 5% captured anyway...
seems to be very unwise politics
but.... so be it!
MAGA!


13 posted on 07/12/2019 4:00:01 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: ransomnote

“provision that would require the president”

I imagine President with a capital “P” is in the NYT Style Guide, but maybe they carved out an exception for President Trump. Likewise, they ought to say “a President”, unless Congress had the gall to pass a bill that only applies to the current Administration.


14 posted on 07/12/2019 4:02:46 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-)
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To: ransomnote

Good.

No President, Trump included, has the authority to take us to war without the consent of the people (House) and the States (Senate).

In 1941, the Congress used the words “authorize and direct the President” to utilize the Army and the Navy to wage war on Japan.

That is the correct way to use the authority granted to the Congress.


15 posted on 07/12/2019 4:03:50 PM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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To: fightin kentuckian

“One branch of govt. cannot usurp powers belonging to another branch”

Correct. Which branch raises an Army and a Navy, makes the rules to administer them, and declares war?


16 posted on 07/12/2019 4:05:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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To: Jim Noble

“No President, Trump included, has the authority to take us to war without the consent of the people (House) and the States (Senate).”

Have you ever read about the Whiskey Rebellion? George Washington, who was close to the writing of the Constitution, sent troops to Pennsylvania to quell a public uprising. He did not seek authorization from Congress.

Likewise, Lincoln did not seek authorization from Congress in pursuing the war against the South.

So in your thinking, the President can wage war against the American people without authorization from Congress, but not enemies overseas.

The practical effect of this law is to give aid and comfort to Iran, an enemy who wants to destroy us. They, like you, rejoice in this law.


17 posted on 07/12/2019 4:24:45 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Jim Noble
Good. No President, Trump included, has the authority to take us to war without the consent of the people (House) and the States (Senate).

Then why the "redundant" vote.

18 posted on 07/12/2019 4:28:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ransomnote

I thought the President has the authority to use military force when he sees fit, but withing 60 day the Congress is obligated to give a ‘yea’ or ‘nay’.

Or did that change?


19 posted on 07/12/2019 4:28:43 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: ransomnote

I guess it means if Israel nukes Iran, we wont have a WhiteHouse to stop it... what is congress going to do then?

That is right, this is a hypocrite attempt of Congress to take over the executive


20 posted on 07/12/2019 5:21:19 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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