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This evening, I flipped over to the Newsmax Channel and started to watched what I soon determined was the documentary film, Waco: The Rules of Engagement. I had seen it in the theater when it came out in 1997, and what I planned to be just a few minutes to catch a bit of the program turned into 2.5 hours.

The film was nominated for an Oscar and was produced by two former liberals who radically changed their attitude during its production.

The video includes congressional hearings with comments from Schumer, Biden, Reno, Lantos, and several LE officials all lying. The end is devastating, not just the fire, but in the FLIR (filmed from a hovering aircraft) evidence that clearly shows gunfire by men outside the compound during the final stages. Also, evidence of incendiary devices launched outside the building that started the fire, in contrast to comments made by apologists that the Davidians started the fire. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. I encourage you to find a copy and renew your knowledge of what happened and who was involved. I think it pertains to today's toxic environment.

I remember reading many years ago a man who died mysteriously, a man who was a FLIR expert and had spent considerable time examining the FLIR recording and claimed to have incredible evidence. During the program, I poked around a bit, using the search terms "Waco Koresh introspection". The Infraspection Institute is an organization mentioned in the film. I wanted to see if they were still around. Well, I didn't get that far, because this link was at the top of the hit list with the title, The Man Who Knew Too Much.

It's about the man mentioned above, Carlos Ghigliotti, who it is claimed died of a heart attack at the age of 42 near the completion of his research (commissioned by Dan Burton's Congressional Committee). He had recently revealed to the article's author that he had a huge revelation and had made the same comments to his sister just before he cooperated with the black hats and died. Good article and worthy of additional research.

More about the film, there were missing scenes I remembered from the film I saw 20+ years ago, including more prominent footage of an impassioned Congressman Sonny Bono asking questions during the hearing. This version only has a five-second shot of him in the background without him speaking. I also remember seeing the FLIR footage of 5-10 men shooting what appeared to be machine guns in the large open field behind the compound during the climax of the fire while people were running and trying to escape from the inferno. (By the way, Reno made me ill listening to her denial that her people did not fire a single shot and did not set the fire).

The wiki page for the film say the three producers had a falling out (no details about what) and as a result, a different version of the film are available. Will have to check that out as that likely explains the "missing" footage.

Oh, one final thing. I learned that David Koresh (not his given name) chose his last name because it is Hebrew for Cyrus. In the book of Isaiah, chapters 44-45 contain the prophecy of Babylon's overthrow (the same event recorded by Daniel 6 - the Writing on the Wall). In that passage, Cyrus is referred to as one who is Anointed (ie Messiah). The only gentile in the Bible given that title. Read it, it's a stunning prophecy more than 100 years before the events unfolded. The historian, Herodotus records the military plan by Cyrus to drain the Euphrates river in order to enter under the Babylonian city the night the empire was defeated. Isaiah names the general (by name!!!) and the strategy of "entering through the dried river" more than a century beforehand.

Anyway, in contrast to the media's label of Koresh as "The" self-declared Messiah, he actually referred to himself a "a" messiah, one of several prophets, anointed by God to reveal God's plan and prior to the Return of Christ.

By no means am I defending Koresh. I think he had serious issues. But I am defending the 70+ people died April 19, 1993.

Sad time in our history.

I think that by this time, Janet Reno is much more acquainted with unending fire...

Robert “Cody” Snodgress has lots of info/insight on Waco, as it was witnessed by Timothy McVeigh. In one of his several interviews, from about a year ago...X22 Spotlight, Caravan to Midnight, maybe Sarah Westall, elsewhere...

This evening, I flipped over to the Newsmax Channel and started to watched what I soon determined was the documentary film, Waco: The Rules of Engagement. I had seen it in the theater when it came out in 1997, and what I planned to be just a few minutes to catch a bit of the program turned into 2.5 hours.

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http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3775325/posts?page=368#368

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The End of April: A Time of Human Sacrifice
Published 6 years ago
on April 18, 2013
By Vigilant Citizen

Why do we often witness tragedy and senseless deaths during the second half of April? The list of violent events that occurred during this time period is simply staggering. Here are some of them:

- April 19, 1993 – Waco Massacre: An FBI assault lead to the burning down of the compound of a sect named Branch Davidians, killing 76 men, women and children.

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Is it all a coincidence? For those in the know, there are no such thing as coincidences.

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https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-end-of-april-the-most-magickal-time-of-the-year/

What is it about mid-April and violence in America?
By Tricia Escobedo, CNN - April 19, 2011 8:56 a.m. EDT

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The Oklahoma City bombing was timed to coincide with the Waco anniversary. And it’s unclear whether the Columbine shooters timed that attack to mark Adolf Hitler’s birthday or possibly Waco.

Is there something about this time of the year that makes these types of attacks more prevalent?

For an answer, CNN spoke with Robert Blaskiewicz, a professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta. He teaches a course examining conspiracy theories and runs a blog, called Skeptical Humanities.

CNN: Is there any evidence or are there any theories that suggest attackers are more likely to strike around this time of the year?

Robert Blaskiewicz: I have seen nothing to suggest that anything about April itself makes people violent.

That said, the reason why we see certain types of political violence in mid- to late April is because of a few unhappy coincidences: that Waco happened to fall on the anniversary of the Battles of Lexington and Concord, the first battles in a war against a tyrannical oppressor.

For many people who labor under the idea that the federal government is a tyrannical foreign oppressor like the British monarchy, Waco symbolizes a war of a government against its people.

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The ill-defined “they,” whether referring to the U.N., CIA, international bankers, Jews or interdimensional shapeshifting reptilian space aliens living in the hollowed-out artificial moon (yeah, it’s a real one), really seem to me to be a secular version of religious mythology.

On the other side, when you are already convinced that agents are working to manipulate world events, people tend to seek out information that reinforces what they already believe.

It’s a tendency called confirmation bias, and it is a sort of perceptual filter for what you accept as evidence.

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/04/19/april.attacks.conspiracy/index.html

https://skepticalhumanities.com/about/

The Conspiracy Guy
Of Course, Qanon
Robert Blaskiewicz
August 9, 2018

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What stuck out to me as I watched the breathless wall-to-wall coverage of Qanon on major networks that don’t usually pay attention to that sort of thing was that anchors and reporters looking into it were flabbergasted that people could believe this stuff. But the older conservatives who are latching onto this conspiracy theory have been trained to believe something almost exactly like this, the story of the Second Coming of Christ as laid out in Revelation and interpreted by premillenarian Christians.

When I say premillenarian Christians, I’m talking about the religious perspective that led to the Left Behind series, the novels that are based on an interpretation of the book of Revelation where humanity has to go through a Tribulation, along with the associated wars and suffering at the hands of the Antichrist, before Christ’s triumphant return. When he returns, he will separate the sheep from the goats in one great act that resolves history, leading to his thousand-year reign. This form of Protestant eschatology is the predominant form among American evangelicals. Because the Bible is supposed to be the inerrant word of God, the faithful scrutinize Revelation and try to match characters and events to the world, essentially reading Revelation as if it were a newspaper. This flawed type of reading,.......

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https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/of_course_qanon1/

Temple of Baal in New York Is Going Up Same Day the Blood Sacrifice to the Beast Begins
9:00AM EDT 4/4/2016 Michael Snyder

April 19 is the first day period of time known as “the Blood Sacrifice to the Beast” that culminates on the high occult holy day of Beltane on May 1. In some parts of the world, Beltane is much better known as “May Day,” and it has been described as the “Illuminati’s second most sacred holiday.”

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April 19 is also known as “the Feast of Moloch.” If you are not familiar with “Moloch” or “Molech,” it is an ancient Canaanite god that is repeatedly denounced in the Old Testament. Child sacrifice was a key feature of the worship of Moloch, and a giant statue of this pagan deity is set up at the Bohemian Grove in northern California every year.

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“April 19 – May 1 – Blood Sacrifice To The Beast, a most critical 13-day period. Fire sacrifice is required on April 19.

April 19 is the first day of the 13-day Satanic ritual day relating to fire – the fire god, Baal, or Molech/Nimrod (the Sun God), also known as the Roman god, Saturn (Satan/Devil).

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April 19, 1993 – Waco Massacre: An FBI assault lead to the burning down of the compound of a sect named Branch Davidians, killing 76 men, women and children.

https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/56236-temple-of-baal-in-new-york-is-going-up-same-day-the-blood-sacrifice-to-the-beast-begins

Temple of Baal Arch Canceled for New York City
10:00AM EDT 4/11/2016 Michael Snyder

https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/56398-temple-of-baal-arch-canceled-for-new-york-city

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Seventeen Little Children - Carl Klang (Waco massacre)
https://youtu.be/LIxzWpg2xks

Waco Songs

Great or awful, famous or obscure...
http://wacocult.tripod.com/songs/songs.html

“It’s a tendency called confirmation bias, and it is a sort of perceptual filter for what you accept as evidence.”
- Robert Blaskiewicz

“Confirmation bias, the tendency to process information by looking for, or interpreting, information that is consistent with one’s existing beliefs. This biased approach to decision making is largely unintentional and often results in ignoring inconsistent information. Existing beliefs can include one’s expectations in a given situation and predictions about a particular outcome. People are especially likely to process information to support their own beliefs when the issue is highly important or self-relevant.”

https://www.britannica.com/science/confirmation-bias

“Think for yourself”
- Q

“Warning - The links on this page are valuable sources of information but there is no guarantee that all of the information provided is the truth. The truth is elusive at best and if you wish to find it you must listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research.”

“This is the age of deception. We are engaged in an information war. Links will take you to many other websites containing varying degrees of personal belief, religious dogma, truth, lies, misinformation, and disinformation. We urge you to practice due diligence in your quest for truth.” (Warnings credited to William Cooper)

Q . “ping” (to save your space due to length)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3775325/posts?page=426#426

As with so much from the fake news click bait media, how can we know anything about Koresh. IF they’re willing to lie about how they killed them, why wouldn’t they be willing to lie about his character.

Thanks. Interesting. Koresh/Cyrus.

This evening, I flipped over to the Newsmax Channel and started to watched what I soon determined was the documentary film, Waco: The Rules of Engagement. I had seen it in the theater when it came out in 1997, and what I planned to be just a few minutes to catch a bit of the program turned into 2.5 hours.

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You peaked my interest with your review. My husband and I watched it tonight. It’s interesting to see it from a perspective of being older. When it happened, I knew what was happening from the news as it happened, but didn’t pay much attention to it afterword. Such is life as a twenty something.

Thanks for turning me on to it.