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Coronavirus live thread 1-27
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Posted on 01/26/2020 3:11:29 PM PST by janetjanet998

There are currently 2,493 confirmed cases worldwide, including 80 fatalities.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; china; corona; coronavirus; trumpasia; wuhan; wuhanvirus; wuncov
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To: janetjanet998

Epidemics are another example of why we should have high protective tariffs, and we should strive to have domestic production capablility in most industries.

I’ve read we’ve outsourced most of our anti-biotic production to China. Taiwan just banned the export of N-95 masks for fear that they may need them domestically.

If you’re China are you going to export anti-biotics when your own people are sick???

George Washington warned us not to become too entangled with foreign governments. Economic entanglement is dangerous.

I’m not opposing all trade. But every country should strive to provide the necessities for itself. That includes and production of enough food, medicines, clothes, shelter, and anything that the military needs.

Because the day may come when you are cut off. Maybe because of war. Maybe because of a pandemic. Maybe just politics or greed.


41 posted on 01/26/2020 3:38:15 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Interesting the middle east and Africa and a large part of Europe are unaffected.


42 posted on 01/26/2020 3:38:41 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: janetjanet998
I reported at The Gateway Pundit early this morning on a Chinese news report on the shortage of diagnostic kits for the new virus and the multi-layered bureaucracy that accounts for the official numbers being far below what is being reported on the ground in Wuhan.

Very long excerpt from Chinese site Renwu dated January 23 via translation:

...Patients in Wuhan are in a difficult situation because of the lack of kits, which cannot be diagnosed and treated. Similar situations have occurred in not only Guangji Tongji Hospital, but also designated hospitals in Wuhan, such as Tongji Hospital Headquarters, Wuhan First Hospital, Sixth Hospital, Wuhan Red Cross Hospital, Wuhan Pulmonary Hospital and other popular hospitals. The patients who were lucky enough to use the kit were called "winning the lottery" by other patients.

In the Wuhan area, kits are also in short supply. The National Health and Medical Commission issued a notice on January 19 stating that "a new coronavirus nucleic acid detection kit has been issued, and all regions are required to strengthen the detection. " Only the first batch of kits was received at the designated hospital for viral pneumonia this time, and the number was very small, "less than one-tenth of the number of people the hospital wants to check. " A hospital in Huanggang just got it on the 22nd. Kit. According to medical staff from a hospital in Xianning, Hubei, they have not yet received the kit.

Prior to this, on December 26, the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center collected a patient specimen from Wuhan. Ten days later, a SARS-like coronavirus was detected from the specimen, and the entire genome sequence of the virus was obtained. The virus isolation, sequencing and other steps were completed at a fairly fast speed, and test reagents were quickly developed. A few days ago it was also reported in the media that the test agent has now achieved 24-hour full coverage in major cities without panic.

But in fact, according to the information disclosed by three companies that have passed the certification of the National Centers for Disease Control, kit production is still tight and capacity is still insufficient. The three companies are Shanghai Pfizer, Shanghai Jeno Bio and Shanghai Berger.

On January 23, People reporters called the three companies, and they were all quite busy. Zhang Zhihua, an employee of Shanghai Jeno Bio, said that the production of kits is not as easy and fast as outsiders say. "Since receiving the order, we have been working overtime. " Employees of Pfizer, another company In an interview a few days ago, they said that their company employees only slept two or three hours a day these days. According to previous interface news reports, Pfizer has supplied kits for 50,000 to 60,000 servings to various regions, and Jeno has produced kits for 75,000 servings on January 16. The two together can test more than 100,000 people.

But it is confusing that the kit is still in short supply. An employee of Shanghai Berger said that these days they keep receiving calls from hospitals and disease control centers around the world, and they can only reply to each other: to ensure full production, adequate stocking, and strive to ensure supply. Near the end of the year, their biggest pressure comes from the companies on the upstream and downstream sides of the relevant supply chain have begun to take vacations, "there is greater pressure on procurement and transportation."

When kits are shipped everywhere, the first place they arrive will be the disease control centers of the provinces and cities. Up to now, the CDC is still the most important institution for the use of control kits.

A female patient in Wuhan in her 20s told People. In the early morning of January 21, because of a fever, she was examined at Wuhan Pulmonary Hospital, one of the three designated hospitals in Wuhan at that time. The examination process she went through was a blood test. , CT and nucleic acid tests, costing nearly 1800 yuan. The doctor identified her lung infection and helped her rule out the possibility of flu, H7N9 and other viruses one by one, but only to the extent that it was impossible to find out whether the infection was caused by a new type without a kit Caused by coronavirus.

When she asked if the kit could be tested, the doctor replied that the kit was "extremely scarce" and that only those hospitalized or highly suspected cases would be sent for testing. Patients with such a mild condition are mainly treated at home and reviewed, and follow-up treatment is determined based on the progress of the condition.

Which hospital can use the kit, how much can be used, you need to apply and coordinate. A person familiar with the disease control system in Wuhan told People that the detection process was mainly performed by the disease control center. At present, all the disease control and inspection departments in Wuhan have sent all personnel to the hospitals to take samples and send samples of suspected cases. All the samples are sent to the laboratory of Hubei Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention for nucleic acid testing. And the experimenters are also running at overload."

According to a report by Sanlian Life Weekly on January 23, a Wuhan-based respiratory doctor said that the power to test in the past two days has also been delegated to the top three hospitals. The top three hospitals are indeed capable of completing such tests. A former RT-PCR diagnostic kit manufacturer employee told "People" that nucleic acid testing requires a special PCR laboratory, but this laboratory is not very demanding, the equipment is not complicated, and strict partitioning can be enough. . "Hepatitis B HBV, Hepatitis C HCV, and AIDS HIV all use PCR testing, so in theory, hospitals with these detection methods can complete PCR testing independently."

However, due to the limited manpower and material resources of the top three hospitals, only part of the burden can be assumed, and considering the possibility of leakage of the new coronavirus, the current head of detection is still at the Hubei Provincial CDC.

After the kit diagnosis, the confirmation process is still long. Huanggang is one of the closest cities to Wuhan. A person from the government department of the city revealed that the counties and cities around Wuhan were relatively cautious about the first case diagnosis (that is, the "first diagnosis"). Even if the kit is received in the county and the result is confirmed to be positive, it cannot be published. It needs to be reported to Hubei Province, reviewed, and then released.

This can also explain why the previous Caixin report stated that the county mayor of Hunchun County, Huanggang City, stated at a county-wide viral pneumonia prevention and control conference on January 20 that Huanggang City's viral pneumonia cases had already There were 109 cases, but there was no confirmed patient in Huanggang at that time-because Huanggang did not have a kit at that time, even if there was, Huanggang had no local authority to confirm the diagnosis.

According to the newly revised "Procedure for Confirmation of the First Case of New Coronavirus Infected Pneumonia in the Provinces (Regions, Cities) of the Country" newly revised by the Health and Medical Commission on January 18, for other provinces and cities except Wuhan, the review must not only go through the provincial level, It must be reported to the country and evaluated by an expert team, and confirmed in all three rounds before the diagnosis can be confirmed. This was the first case of new pneumonia announced in Jiangsu on the 22nd. According to a report from Jiangsu Province, the 37-year-old male patient was quarantined and treated on January 10. The specimen was tested by the laboratory of the Jiangsu Provincial Center for Disease Control and Detection and showed a new type of coronavirus-positive nucleic acid, which was reviewed by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention. It was evaluated by the expert team on January 22, and the diagnosis was finally confirmed. From admission to diagnosis and announcement, there are layers of checks, which last up to 12 days...

43 posted on 01/26/2020 3:38:49 PM PST by kristinn (Serving ten to life in paradise)
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To: Blue Highway

It is basic epidemiology. Different population groups have different genetic susceptibilities to different pathogens. However your point is well taken. Political correctness is synonymous with self imposed delusion. If you are a politically correct scientist, its not truth you are seeking and your work very questionable at best.


45 posted on 01/26/2020 3:42:16 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: DannyTN

Getty images are banned on FR


46 posted on 01/26/2020 3:42:36 PM PST by deport
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To: janetjanet998

Ping!


47 posted on 01/26/2020 3:43:16 PM PST by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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To: janetjanet998
There are other confirmed/suspected cases including a high-school student at Yale; a student at Wesleyan, I *think* one in North Carolina, and three in Virginia.

Sorry, too busy following stuff to supply the links at the moment. But I've eyeballed all of those in the last 90 minutes.

48 posted on 01/26/2020 3:43:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: DannyTN

There’s a killer on the road...


49 posted on 01/26/2020 3:45:01 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: janetjanet998

We don’t know the kill rate yet, we just know it’s too many.

Only after it is over will we know for sure.


50 posted on 01/26/2020 3:46:02 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Blue Highway

The testing kits are still scarce, which explains the gaps in regions as well as low numbers worldwide.


51 posted on 01/26/2020 3:51:15 PM PST by datura
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To: Rushmore Rocks

We were going to Arizona next month for a four day weekend. I am debating on whether we should still go.


52 posted on 01/26/2020 3:51:32 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: Blue Highway

Or they just don’t know they are affected yet.


53 posted on 01/26/2020 3:53:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: dougherty

By that time I would expect confirmed cases in all 50 states.


54 posted on 01/26/2020 3:54:26 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Mariner

We don’t know the kill rate yet, we just know it’s too many.


correct..but my point was the rate, new cases/deaths the pst 24hrs, is increasing where it started

this may mean that they are finally confirming older deaths and/or more of the older patients that have been in the hospital are passing


55 posted on 01/26/2020 3:54:29 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

From FRIDAY

https://kdvr.com/2020/01/24/st-anthony-hospital-contacting-cdc-to-see-if-patient-should-be-evaluated-for-coronavirus/


56 posted on 01/26/2020 3:55:47 PM PST by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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Schumer urging HHS to declare a public Health Emergency.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/3rd-us-case-coronavirus-confirmed-death-toll-rises-172200512—abc-news-topstories.html


57 posted on 01/26/2020 3:57:58 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: janetjanet998
With a 14 day incubation period this will get more interesting during the first week of February. They say it can be spread before victim comes down with symptoms.

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5 million escape Wuhan right before lockdown.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047720/chinese-premier-li-keqiang-head-coronavirus-crisis-team-outbreak

58 posted on 01/26/2020 3:58:22 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: dougherty; All

I just returned from the store. I always grab an anti viral, anti bacterial wipe to use on my hands and the cart handle. They were totally out. I asked the pharmacist about it. She said people steal them as soon as they put in a new supply.
Never happened before.


59 posted on 01/26/2020 3:59:07 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: janetjanet998

So approximately .00000032% of the world population. Talking to a medical friend yesterday, he said he gets either a coronavirus or rhinovirus a couple times a year. Except is just called a viral infection, or in some instances a cold.

Gunner


60 posted on 01/26/2020 3:59:47 PM PST by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy, The Continuing Saga!! Still!!)
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