[familyop]

That's an enormous effort. It's worth following the link for the rest of the story.

[familyop]

4,800. Here comes the surprise.

[DannyTN]

Ping

[dp0622]

HIV meds being sold at Yuge markup and on black market too.

No proven efficacy though.

Those quarantine camps will be death camps. There will be almost no treatment.

Has it spread to many parts of China or is it at least contained?

I know in China containment can still mean 100 million people are in trouble.

[TheConservativeParty]

They are grossly under-reporting the death count and infected count.
We all know the Chinese gov’t lies.
There are 6 cases now in my state (WI) from Chinese who went home to China for their new year, and brought the disease to Madison.
Not to worry though, the media says the hospitals sent all of them home to “self-quarantine”!
They will of course go to grocery stores and touch/cough on food and infect everyone.
Idiot government.

[ifinnegan]

“It’s worth following the link for the rest of the story.”

I doubt this is in the excerpt only list.

[arthurus]

Considering China’s record in reporting things and the apparent frenetic activity in Hu Pei, it is prety certain that the spread is far faster and the deaths far more numerous than the official numbers. To start with the reported numbers count the people who die in hospitals and are diagnosed with the corona virus. Many are simply wwritten up as cause of death-pneumonia, and not counted.

[blueplum]

It’s a huge effort but the party wants this to end and end now.

I followed the links to the NYT story that said,
“The fatality rate in Wuhan is 4.1 percent and 2.8 percent in Hubei, compared to 0.17 percent elsewhere in mainland China.”

Which brings the $64,000 question: why is it 20x higher in Wuhan? Were only old people or only poor people left after the mayor gave a week’s notice of quarantine?

and from a Guardian article - why is Xiaogan, giving Wuhan a run for its money?

quote from the guardian: “The Chinese city of Xiaogan, around 70km north-west of Wuhan in Hubei province, has become only the second city in China (after Wuhan) to record more than 2,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus.”

quote from Al-Jazerra: “We already ran out of protective suits a few days ago, and now we are using disposable raincoats to offer minimum protection,” a doctor at Xiaogan First People’s hospital in Hubei, who preferred not to be named, told Al Jazeera.”

Both have been under increasing quarantine for just under a month, and 15 days of total lockdown. Are these new cases a result of lockdown with family? or same apartment buildings? what do these two towns have in common?

[riri]

This death toll number is fantasy.

They are burning bodies, going around with vans and picking people up, going door to door with thermometers, etc

[metmom]

Corona/Infectious Disease ping.

[null and void]

"The challenge for these quarantines is that it does not have proper medical facilities as opposed to patients staying at hospitals."

In any non-communist country, this would be called a death camp.

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

[DouglasKC]

This is what got’s me so freaked out. IF it’s a relatively harmless thing then why is the Chinese government reacting so strongly?

[sauropod]

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