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How George Floyd died: A conjecture.
various | 6/3/2020 | me

Posted on 06/03/2020 7:33:07 PM PDT by struggle

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To: struggle

The knee heard (seen) around the world!

If it was a two-bit hit on a doped up criminal (like you conjecture), I don't want to sound callous, or like I approve of it, or anything like that, but why couldn't they have just shot him in some dark alley, and kept it to an evil, but private affair?

(I know, that's kind of like saying, why couldn't the Chinese have kept that virus local, isolated to the Wuhan area, and not let it spread around the world.   Our country, and the whole world, are completely different places today, because of those two avoidable decisions people made just within the last several months.)

21 posted on 06/03/2020 7:54:29 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: struggle

People suffering from an opiate overdose lose their respiratory drive; they don’t feel like they can’t breathe, they just go to sleep and stop breathing.

You don’t need naloxone for an opiate overdose patient, you can ventilate them.

If Floyd weren’t an overdose patient, naloxone would do nothing.

I am not buying 4 dirty cops plus a dirty set of paramedics plus a convenient forged $20 and a store clerk who noticed.

With a 20 year cop salary, overtime, private duty at the night club, a radiology tech wife, they had a fair amount of money. House prices in Florida tanked during the last recession, and they apparently rented it out.

You are going way overboard.


22 posted on 06/03/2020 7:58:42 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate other.)
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To: RummyChick

He tested positive on 4/3/20 and the autopsy test was pcr which can’t tell the difference between live or dead virus particles that have cleared the system.


23 posted on 06/03/2020 7:59:50 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: struggle

He had a huge cocktail of drugs going on if you read the report, incuding morphine.....the guy was loaded!


24 posted on 06/03/2020 8:02:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: Valpal1

but they can go in and do all kinds of tests.

medcram has talked about some of them that can be done after someone has died.


25 posted on 06/03/2020 8:03:22 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what. AND I AM NOT FACT CHECKING POSTS. I AM NOT TWITTER)
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To: ctdonath2

You don’t need to wonder.....the videos show clearly he was out of control from te get go.....and before the cops even arrived.


26 posted on 06/03/2020 8:05:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

>He had a huge cocktail of drugs going on if you read the report, incuding morphine.....the guy was loaded!

Yeah, there’s parts in the video showing little white baggies around him appearing on film out of his pants as well.


27 posted on 06/03/2020 8:05:37 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Regarding Fentanyl toxicity, the low end of toxic blood level is for the naive or new user. Typically, a more experienced user toxic level is >34ng/mL. The medical examiner report uses key terms for the deceased: Fentanyl intoxication. This does not equal toxicity. Same for methamphetamine recent use. This does not equal current intoxication.


28 posted on 06/03/2020 8:06:03 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: freeandfreezing

> The club appears like it catered mostly to a Mexican clientele. That may add some additional aspects to the story.

There were various shootings outside the club by patrons that had been inside, but none IN THE CLUB. The former owner Santamaria blames all the near-cancellations of her license on racism, but it’s pretty clear there was a criminal element.


29 posted on 06/03/2020 8:07:25 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Drugs in his system...bad heart...history of violent crime.I say 3-5 years for the cop seen in the video and nothing for the others.


30 posted on 06/03/2020 8:09:02 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

he had sickle cell trait...we have been wondering how people with this issue deal with COVID 19.


31 posted on 06/03/2020 8:10:59 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what. AND I AM NOT FACT CHECKING POSTS. I AM NOT TWITTER)
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To: struggle
Before you settle on any conclusion, take a look at this....

Sunday Talks: Crump on Floyd – “We Don’t Understand”…

32 posted on 06/03/2020 8:11:45 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: RummyChick

or maybe he didnt have it..not sure what this means

Comments: The finding of sickled-appearing cells in many of the
autopsy tissue sections prompted the Hemoglobin S quantitation
reported above. This quantitative result is indicative of sickle
cell trait. Red blood cells in individuals with sickle cell trait
are known to sickle as a postmortem artifact. The decedent’s
antemortem peripheral blood smear (made from a complete blood count
collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m.) was reviewed by an expert HHC
hematopathologist at the Medical Examiner’s request. This review
found no evidence of antemortem sickling.


33 posted on 06/03/2020 8:12:05 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what. AND I AM NOT FACT CHECKING POSTS. I AM NOT TWITTER)
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To: RummyChick

I read the autopsy and it says pcr was used and mentioned the prior test on 4/3 when he was alive. ME obviously had access to his medical files.


34 posted on 06/03/2020 8:12:35 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

Was he treated in a hospital or sent home?


35 posted on 06/03/2020 8:13:51 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Then there's the coroner's statement, died from pre-existing conditions.

Did you leave part of that sentence out?

From your link:

"George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers"

36 posted on 06/03/2020 8:15:42 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Valpal1

I understand that...but there are further tests that can be done after someone has died that are instructive in a COVID patient and Medcram has talked about them


37 posted on 06/03/2020 8:16:11 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what. AND I AM NOT FACT CHECKING POSTS. I AM NOT TWITTER)
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To: petitfour

The autopsy only has the date of the test.


38 posted on 06/03/2020 8:16:53 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: MortMan
The poster might be completely out of the bounds of decency but get off your legal high horse. It’s ridiculous!
39 posted on 06/03/2020 8:18:02 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: NewJerseyJoe

A big stretch and has nothing to do with Floyd being jacked up, and he knew HE was passing a counterfeit bill......all the rest of it is not relevant to the arrest.


40 posted on 06/03/2020 8:20:12 PM PDT by caww
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